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https://www.facebook.com/17494788588615 ... 34NbwyFUl/
"Wakefield Trinity can confirm that James Batchelor will join Hull KR on a two-year deal at the expiration of his contract at the club.
Everyone at Trinity would like to thank Batch for his brilliant service to the Red, White & Blue and we wish him the very best for the future."
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"Wakefield Trinity can confirm that James Batchelor will join Hull KR on a two-year deal at the expiration of his contract at the club.
Everyone at Trinity would like to thank Batch for his brilliant service to the Red, White & Blue and we wish him the very best for the future."
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| Willie, on Trinity TV today said he doesn't know all the decisions yet.
Effectively, someone like Milky is under contract till December (I think).
He may have wanted to wait till we know we are safe before deciding what to do.
So nothing to announce.
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Everyone at Trinity would like to thank Batch for his brilliant service to the Red, White & Blue and we wish him the very best for the future."'"
So if you want to know anything from the club you have to be on Facebook surely they can update the website because that is what most companies do. I suppose we should be glad we are not using linked in.
I guess nothing on Facebook regarding our two most recent departures.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"So if you want to know anything from the club you have to be on Facebook surely they can update the website because that is what most companies do. I suppose we should be glad we are not using linked in.
I guess nothing on Facebook regarding our two most recent departures.'"
You asked for a link, I gave you a link.
Is this your way of saying thank you?
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Everyone at Trinity would like to thank Batch for his brilliant service to the Red, White & Blue and we wish him the very best for the future."'"
It might as well be posted on the dark web because I can’t access that either or by semaphore from the top of the flats. We have a website that they have updated even yesterday but not with this, I guess you would call it the future but thank you for trying.
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| Must admit news from the club is very sporadic to say the least , as people have rightly stated ,not everyone is on all forms of social media and as such is very short sighted by the club to not have their web sight updated regularly.We can have a Muslim charter proclaimed from the rooftop for the as yet to see ,influx of fans from the local community , but we can’t keep the faithful notified , those faithful that have kept this club going may I add over these dark and often depressing years . .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Must admit news from the club is very sporadic to say the least , as people have rightly stated ,not everyone is on all forms of social media and as such is very short sighted by the club to not have their web sight updated regularly.We can have a Muslim charter proclaimed from the rooftop for the as yet to see ,influx of fans from the local community , but we can’t keep the faithful notified , those faithful that have kept this club going may I add over these dark and often depressing years . .'"
There is no doubt in my mind that MC has lost his drive and wants out. Since the Chester stuff it's obvious that most of his passion was gone and I can understand that. He's been bold and tried to run a RL club as a business/community enterprise and its partially worked, but I think he now knows that there is far too much passion, ignorance and emotion of every kind involved for that to really work, especially when stuff goes wrong.
I think he is now just doing whats needed to keep his baby afloat until someone comes along to take it off his hands.
Hence communication which used to be his strong point barely seems to register now.
Shame, but I honestly can't blame him, some so called Trinity fans are truly awful and worse the ones I'm referring to won't for one second realise it's them I'm on about.
Unless you have a skin as thick as Ted Richardsons then ten years running Trinity is far too much to expect from any normal person.
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| Does all seem a little odd though, the way these announcements have come from the players, rather than the clubs own media.
Sadly another example of club not engaging very good with their fans.
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| Quote ="vastman"There is no doubt in my mind that MC has lost his drive and wants out. Since the Chester stuff it's obvious that most of his passion was gone and I can understand that. He's been bold and tried to run a RL club as a business/community enterprise and its partially worked, but I think he now knows that there is far too much passion, ignorance and emotion of every kind involved for that to really work, especially when stuff goes wrong.
I think he is now just doing whats needed to keep his baby afloat until someone comes along to take it off his hands.
Hence communication which used to be his strong point barely seems to register now.
Shame, but I honestly can't blame him, some so called Trinity fans are truly awful and worse the ones I'm referring to won't for one second realise it's them I'm on about.
Unless you have a skin as thick as Ted Richardsons then ten years running Trinity is far too much to expect from any normal person.'"
I didn't get that vibe from his comments at the fans forum. Without burning his bridges I think he distanced himself from the "historical" quote that he would call it a day if we got relegated. We were rock bottom at the time of the FF remember.
Ted never got the amount of stick MC gets which is strange when you remember the basket case that the club was off the field in those days.
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Unless you have a skin as thick as Ted Richardsons then ten years running Trinity is far too much to expect from any normal person.'"
i havnt seen old Ted for years but I know he is still as passionate as ever about the club and still goes to all the games. Carter and Ted are totally different beasts and a blend of the two would be a great mix. Their downfall is that neither have the resources like their fellow SL club owners.
Think why Carter may take more stick is because the bloomers he makes are more rugby related and thats something that the fans quickly pick up on and can see are wrong. With Ted it was other stuff which many fans are not aware of or in areas they dont understand.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I didn't get that vibe from his comments at the fans forum. Without burning his bridges I think he distanced himself from the "historical" quote that he would call it a day if we got relegated. We were rock bottom at the time of the FF remember.
Ted never got the amount of stick MC gets which is strange when you remember the basket case that the club was off the field in those days.'"
Well, without wanting to sound like somebody who thinks they are in the know, when hands up I'm really not, but let's just say on my one meeting with him he was more candid and tbf that was before the CC stuff.
As for Ted, he got exactly as much stick if not way more IMO but Twatter and MoanBook were in there infancy then as were podcasts and blogs. All of which give every halfwit the ability to spew venom as fact to a largely willing audience it has to be said.
However MC used social media a lot at the beginning so he has to accept he's going to get some pay back at time.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"i havnt seen old Ted for years but I know he is still as passionate as ever about the club and still goes to all the games. Carter and Ted are totally different beasts and a blend of the two would be a great mix. Their downfall is that neither have the resources like their fellow SL club owners.
Think why Carter may take more stick is because the bloomers he makes are more rugby related and thats something that the fans quickly pick up on and can see are wrong. With Ted it was other stuff which many fans are not aware of or in areas they dont understand.'"
Ironically, considering the grief the club is currently getting from a minority is that he communicated a lot more.
He'd come on here or meet people to tell them the facts. That's something no one else ever did, and most other clubs ever did either.
That's been beaten out of him. I remember warning that this would happen but some just don't get it.
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| Perhaps this could and should have been done differently.
The club should be making more of the last home fixture of the season, no question.
However, to turn the positive of some players wanting to say "goodbye" into a negative, is quite strange.
Yes, it's disappointing that certain players are leaving but, certainly with Fifita, Arona and Miller in particular, they owe the club nothing and each one has been excellent value, to the point that most fans would be happier if they were staying.
It's tough for the club.
There is loads going on at present, especially with the ground etc and it's a pity that they cant sell the game more and attract a sell out crowd but, with all of the restrictions on numbers, this game will be close to a full house anyway.
Let's wait and see who is definitely going and who is coming in to replace them before hammering the club (again).
It would have been great to see the Fifita brothers playing together at BV but, the end of next season would have seen them both retiring and a massive hole to fill and probably, the budget blown in the process ?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"i havnt seen old Ted for years but I know he is still as passionate as ever about the club and still goes to all the games. Carter and Ted are totally different beasts and a blend of the two would be a great mix. Their downfall is that neither have the resources like their fellow SL club owners.
Think why Carter may take more stick is because the bloomers he makes are more rugby related and thats something that the fans quickly pick up on and can see are wrong. With Ted it was other stuff which many fans are not aware of or in areas they dont understand.'"
Largely agree, but as stated on another post, can you imagine how Ted would fair now with social media in full swing, horrendous I'd suggest. He was lucky on that one.
If I were ever unlucky enough to run Trinity, I'd point blank refuse to do social media at anything other than an informative level. It's simply become ambush city.
Best policy is to follow our wonderful Queens advice, “never complain, never explain”.
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Conor, the social media manager must have the life of riley - only works game days'"
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Anyone who was online before he started knows how much work he puts in. We are miles ahead of where we used to be.
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| You didnt need social media with Ted, he couldnt hold water. This thread would never be running in his day back then we would have known who was leaving ,who was comming and who we were after and who we missed getting. He used to go out in Wakey on a night and he was always happy to chat about Wakey. Ted was basically a fan running the club. But you are correct he got as much stick as Carter it was not all in the open like now.
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| His early silly comments on social media didn't help. I can see him being a bit stubborn and that may result in the odd sulk when things don't go his way.
His early devotion to the club also got wrapped up in I'm the saviour complex and it's my club and I will run it as I want.
Yes he seemed driven but not for changing., He's run the club how he wanted to and the lack of progress must be down to him. His clubs gone backwards on the playing front and that certainly hasn't helped.
He needs to try and reconnect with the supporters, and drop its my club thing
Supporters generally want to feel part of the club and that's definitely been side lined during MC reign,
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| Quote ="lampyboy"His early silly comments on social media didn't help. I can see him being a bit stubborn and that may result in the odd sulk when things don't go his way.
His early devotion to the club also got wrapped up in I'm the saviour complex and it's my club and I will run it as I want.
Yes he seemed driven but not for changing., He's run the club how he wanted to and the lack of progress must be down to him. His clubs gone backwards on the playing front and that certainly hasn't helped.
He needs to try and reconnect with the supporters, and drop its my club thing
Supporters generally want to feel part of the club and that's definitely been side lined during MC reign,'"
I'm torn with that one.
He definitely doesn't allow fans to help out much as far as I can tell. We no longer seem to have things like Coolcats etc, whilst stalwarts like Sue Parker, Phil Townend and Philip Hulme to name but a few don't seem to be involved in anything.
In other respects he's very open.
Personally for the life of me I can't understand why the club have not harnessed fan power to help with the re-development like Fev have. I see no reason why tasks such as painting and decorating, fitting out, landscaping could't be handed out to a fan based body, I'm no expert on costings but surely this sort of free labour could have taken some pressure off the budget.
I'm absolutely certain that the Cats bar re-furb could have been done by the fans. I know we have the skill base.
However that's just my opinion, but I've never seen any suggestion MC or JM are keen on the idea and they may have very good reasons.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"You didnt need social media with Ted, he couldnt hold water. This thread would never be running in his day back then we would have known who was leaving ,who was comming and who we were after and who we missed getting. He used to go out in Wakey on a night and he was always happy to chat about Wakey. Ted was basically a fan running the club. But you are correct he got as much stick as Carter it was not all in the open like now.'"
True, Ted was pretty much a walking Twitter feed.
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How lazy of a statement is that? my point proven exactly
Two players given years of service to the club and Dave (probably one of the most iconic characters in recent times) given a shoddy statement.
Not even a highlight reel or some best moments, or a small video interview?
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I'm absolutely certain that the Cats bar re-furb could have been done by the fans. I know we have the skill base.
However that's just my opinion, but I've never seen any suggestion MC or JM are keen on the idea and they may have very good reasons.'"
If my memory is correct it was Glover/Elston that disbanded what was basically a club private army. Wisca soon went and everything else collapsed. You are right if that spirit and bunch back then were mobilised they could achieve quite a bit. Carter never saw that and therefore dosnt really grasp what he has missed out on.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I didn't get that vibe from his comments at the fans forum. Without burning his bridges I think he distanced himself from the "historical" quote that he would call it a day if we got relegated. We were rock bottom at the time of the FF remember.
Ted never got the amount of stick MC gets which is strange when you remember the basket case that the club was off the field in those days.'"
Tbf, social media was nothing like it is today at that particular point in time. No doubt, if it were, he would have come in for a bit more stick.
Ironically, with the club on a more even financial footing, many fans believe we should be spending big, even if we dont have the money to do so.
Unless we get a super wealthy owner, this just isnt going to happen.
As a club now, compared to where we were when Carter took over, the difference is unbelievable. Nobody should forget that.
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On this we are agreed.
It baffles me. I know sometimes supporters groups become the preserve of little Napoleons like the old supporters group, and become a huge hinderance in many ways. But none of those people I mentioned and a fair few I didn't have huge egos. It's a massive missed opportunity IMHO but we are all different and see things differently I suppose.
For example this North Stand issue. So we have not got the money to go all the way, I can accept that. So why not start an appeal to the fans to raise whatever is needed to complete it all the way. I agree it will take time, maybe a few years to get the money coming in, but if nothing else it take peoples minds off it and gives us something to aim for.
Maybe that's exactly what will happen, so I could be being unfair, but personally I was hoping for such a fan based initiative to occur 18 month ago but nothing as of yet.
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