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| Quote ="winnintrin"Really difficult, and that's why this sits so uncomfortably. I can genuinely see us beating Hull FC at their place, and HKR at Belle Vue. I can also genuinely see Toulouse not winning any of their fixtures....
Unfortunately, I can also see Wakey not winning any more (that's not a dig, but a reflection that they are ALL tough fixtures remaining) and I can also see Toulouse beating Salford and Hull FC in France, as Avenger has predicted......
Two totally different outcomes, both completely feasible, but perhaps the crystal ball will be a little clearer in three weeks time, when Toulouse have had their three home games on the bounce.....
I'm going to go the middle way, cross my fingers and say:
11th Wakefield 12pts
12th Toulouse 10pts'"
It will be mighty interesting if Toulouse need a win when they play Catalan.
There are two schools of thought on their situation.
Would Catalan be happy to have Toulouse in the comp, where they fight for a limited pool of French players or, would they want to "help" their French counterpart's.
The only issue here is that right now, our fete is in our own hands and the players need to have some fight in them and unfortunately, we just haven't got that.
Some players are busting a gut but, as a collective, it's just not there.
We are in a bloody big hole.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It will be mighty interesting if Toulouse need a win when they play Catalan.
There are two schools of thought on their situation.
Would Catalan be happy to have Toulouse in the comp, where they fight for a limited pool of French players or, would they want to "help" their French counterpart's.
It doesn’t work for us when it comes to our very near neighbours Castleford.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"
It works for Cas every game
Tbf, I think it's a different situation and even though they beat us every time, the derby is a fixture that we wouldn't wast to lose from the fixture program.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
Would Catalan be happy to have Toulouse in the comp, where they fight for a limited pool of French players or, would they want to "help" their French counterpart's.
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There is no love lost between the French and Catalans people.
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| Can't see the team Leeds are sending over to Toulouse getting a win
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| Quote ="Steve0"Can't see the team Leeds are sending over to Toulouse getting a win'"
No and it stinks to high heaven
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| As in there are a lot missing ?
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"No and it stinks to high heaven'"
No it doesn’t, if we are relegated we have only ourselves to blame. We have had many chances in games to pull away from relegation but sadly we failed in every single one.
It’s no use trying to look for a conspiracy to cover our obvious short comings both on and off the field when there isn’t one. This is a self made crisis which I think many saw coming over the last few seasons exasperated by a bunch of below par signings, many brought in to pad out the squad with the smallest amount of outlay.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No it doesn’t, if we are relegated we have only ourselves to blame. We have had many chances in games to pull away from relegation but sadly we failed in every single one.
It’s no use trying to look for a conspiracy to cover our obvious short comings both on and off the field when there isn’t one. This is a self made crisis which I think many saw coming over the last few seasons exasperated by a bunch of below par signings, many brought in to pad out the squad with the smallest amount of outlay.'"
Well it does to me. Just because I'm paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get me!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No it doesn’t, if we are relegated we have only ourselves to blame. We have had many chances in games to pull away from relegation but sadly we failed in every single one.
It’s no use trying to look for a conspiracy to cover our obvious short comings both on and off the field when there isn’t one. This is a self made crisis which I think many saw coming over the last few seasons exasperated by a bunch of below par signings, many brought in to pad out the squad with the smallest amount of outlay.'"
I agree with you on this. We shouldn't be in a position where we are worrying about whether Leeds will beat Toulouse just to keep them behind us. We should be worrying about why we haven't done enough to make this game a non-starter in the relegation battle.
Based on form and the teams fielded against us:
Leeds (H) - we should have won but didn't turn up
Castleford (H) - we should have been close, and pre-game had our best chance of a win than in any other recent meeting
Huddersfield (H) - we should have won but didn't
Salford (A) - off the back of 2 wins on the bounce there is no way that we should have been destroyed as we were
Toulouse (Magic) - a 16 point half time lead and then an utter capitulation
All those games were winnable with the right attitude and we could be in the top 6 right now, but we spectacularly failed on every occasion. So now we're left worrying about what team Leeds are taking to Toulouse. It's about time our own players took a look at themselves and said "we're still in the box seat going into this weekend and we hold our destiny in our own hands" instead of worrying about what Toulouse may or may not do.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No it doesn’t, if we are relegated we have only ourselves to blame. We have had many chances in games to pull away from relegation but sadly we failed in every single one.
It’s no use trying to look for a conspiracy to cover our obvious short comings both on and off the field when there isn’t one. This is a self made crisis which I think many saw coming over the last few seasons exasperated by a bunch of below par signings, many brought in to pad out the squad with the smallest amount of outlay.'"
That is the reason why I have stopped going to away matches ( though the Salford match did not help lol) Never seen so much Cash wasted by the club over the last 3 years This is after we had the best 2 year on the field for a long time This problem as been caused by a guy in charge of Coaching who when left on own ,did not no what he was doing
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| So after a week here’s an update
CURRENT LEAGUE TABLE
8 Salford Played 18 / 14pts / Points Diff - 34
9 Warrington Played 19 / 14pts / Points Diff - 75
10 HKR 14pts Played 18 / Points Diff - 83
11 Toulouse Played 19 / 10pts / Points Diff - 165
=#FF004012 Wakefield Played 18 / 10pts / Points Diff - 219
Here are the remaining fixtures for both
Please make your predictions
WAKEFIELD TRINITY
Hull KR Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs St Helens LOSS
Castleford Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs Catalan LOSS
Wakefield Vs Wigan LOSS
Hull Fc Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs HUll KR WIN
St Helens Vs Wakefield LOSS
TOULOUSE OLIMPIQUE
Toulouse Vs Leeds LOSS =#408040(WON)
Toulouse Vs Salford WIN
Toulouse Vs Hull FC WIN
Hull KR Vs Toulouse LOSS
Warrington Vs Toulouse LOSS
Wigan Vs Toulouse LOSS
Toulouse Vs Catalan LOSS
Hull FC Vs Toulouse LOSS
St Helens Vs Toulouse LOSS
PREDICTED FINAL LEAGUE TABLE
11th Toulouse 14pts
=#FF004012th Wakefield 12pts
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| You need to add our final game of the season away at Huddersfield to the list. Probably another loss though.
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| I look at things like this, dont know HKR result later today. But if we had beaten toulouse in every game we would be on 14pts and them on 6pts. This mess is down to Trin and no one else.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I look at things like this, dont know HKR result later today. But if we had beaten toulouse in every game we would be on 14pts and them on 6pts. [uThis mess is down to Trin and no one else.[/u'"
Well spotted
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| I'm still sticking with the prediction I made on another thread last week. Points difference won't even come into it.
11. Toulouse 16
12. Wakefield 14
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I'm still sticking with the prediction I made on another thread last week. Points difference won't even come into it.
11. Toulouse 16
12. Wakefield 14'"
Where do you see the 4pts coming from?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Where do you see the 4pts coming from?'"
I said we'd beat Hull KR once out of the two times we play them plus we'll get lucky with another home win. To be fair, it doesn't matter where they come from as it won't be enough. Toulouse have got more wins in them yet.
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| I think Toulouse will win 2 more games , 3 at best. So you guys need to win 3 or 4.
Kr H
Catalan H
Hull A
Plus maybe the elusive win over Cas ?
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| Quote ="Towns88"I think Toulouse will win 2 more games , 3 at best. So you guys need to win 3 or 4.
Kr H
Catalan H
Hull A
Plus maybe the elusive win over Cas ?'"
First 3 maybe (doubtful mind) but the last one? Not a prayer.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So after a week here’s an update
CURRENT LEAGUE TABLE
8 Salford Played 18 / 14pts / Points Diff - 34
9 Warrington Played 19 / 14pts / Points Diff - 75
10 HKR 14pts Played 18 / Points Diff - 83
11 Toulouse Played 19 / 10pts / Points Diff - 165
=#FF004012 Wakefield Played 18 / 10pts / Points Diff - 219
Here are the remaining fixtures for both
Please make your predictions
WAKEFIELD TRINITY
Hull KR Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs St Helens LOSS
Castleford Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs Catalan LOSS
Wakefield Vs Wigan LOSS
Hull Fc Vs Wakefield LOSS
Wakefield Vs HUll KR WIN
St Helens Vs Wakefield LOSS
TOULOUSE OLIMPIQUE
Toulouse Vs Leeds LOSS =#408040(WON)
Toulouse Vs Salford WIN
Toulouse Vs Hull FC WIN
Hull KR Vs Toulouse LOSS
Warrington Vs Toulouse LOSS
Wigan Vs Toulouse LOSS
Toulouse Vs Catalan LOSS
Hull FC Vs Toulouse LOSS
St Helens Vs Toulouse LOSS
PREDICTED FINAL LEAGUE TABLE
11th Toulouse 14pts
=#FF004012th Wakefield 12pts'"
St helens are going to have a LOT of players missing against Wakefield.
Stranger things have happened!
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| Trouble is we're not up for the fight to survive doesn't matter who's missing.
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| Saints nilled Shudds with only 12 players for most of the game, so, even if they play their Academy on Sunday we are still unlikely to win
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| Quote ="FIL" even if they play their Academy on Sunday we are still unlikely to win
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They were unlucky not to win when they did just that against Cas early doors this season.
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