‘A good player’ !!!
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Give your head a shake. An outstanding player nothing less will do.

Sorry but that’s a lousy description by any standards.

Here’s one for the ones who like their stats - since Tanginoa came (80 games ago ago , may 2019 ) )Miller , fifita , Johnstone , and Tupou have only played together on 7 occasions through various reasons , mainly injuries. However you look at it that it’s a poor return on your big investments , and obviously one reason why we are where we are

Sadly that is the story of his career at Wakey.

He leaves with a lot of what ifs due to his injury record.

He has a great carry and obviously his finishing is top class. I’m still of the opinion he has issues in defence but again due to his lack of ability to get a run of games together consistently it’s always going to be a challenge to improve weaknesses in anyones game.

I hope the warmer climate change is environment and coaching can see him on the field more consistently because that is obviously what he needs to do to reach his potential which I think he can do still.

Catalans have clearly showed their hand by retaining Yaha on a new deal as well as having Tom Davis on contract. A nice insurance policy to have in place.

They are 2 very good wingers. Tom has the potential to be the best on the 3 of them however they clearly expect him to miss a few games enduring they have quality back up when he does.

what a surprise @poptart the moderator doesn't moderate anything from vastman.

you have to admit it was funny though vastman.

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Vasty, I've given you (this time) and Snowie (Previous posts) a lot of rope on the swearing. Can't keep happening. I'll have to take more action that just editing it in future
Jools....go back to your teams board now. As a visitor you need to comment constructively rather than just troll for bites.

Just watched Tom's interview on Trinity TV . He talked about continuing to help all he can with coaching the young lads for the rest of the season but didn't mention PLAYING. If we could get him on the field even for just a couple of games he could be the difference Between winning or losing those games with his to ability to score a try from nothing and those two games could ensure our survival in SL.

I doubt it will happen.

It's in his interest and Catalans that he doesn't. If I were a cynic I'd say they may already have paid for that - though let me make it clear that I have no idea if thats remotely true.

Not sure I quite follow that logic , he’s got a contract for Three seasons even if he never picks up a ball, Tom has always been Wakefield through and through most of the team he’s played with for at least 3 years. Am 99 percent that if he’s fit he ll play . I’ve been as frustrated as anyone with his various injuries and actually am pleased he’s got a big contract.

Am pretty sure if fit he ll play if not the club could have let him go early

I actually agree with you because a slight injury now turns out mysteriously to be much worse. I doubt we will see him again this season playing but unlike you I am more a cynic and say his wages are probably no longer being funded by us.
If so then financially good but performance and survival wise very bad.

It's not a slight injury it's a torn groin that could heal after a month or so depending on the severity of several months and possibly an operation

Ok, but that’s not how the world I live in operates.

Correct.

Him playing in a Trinity shirt helps nobody imho and that includes us.

We’ve moved on from TJ whether we like it or not.

I see it that way myself and the team have more pressing concerns .
However if your theory is correct then he should go now and end the charade .His presence hanging around dosnt help the club or himself.
Then again he may well return and play a few games at the back end. However even TJ would not get us a win in the last two games.

Which I think sums up quite neatly

Unless my aging memory is poor, the last game he played was 3 APRIL Salford at home. He won us that game in first half and then was 'rested'at HT as a precaution.
Then we heard he had a slight injury in training after being named in a match day squad.
Its now three months later and still I have not heard of definate explanation why he is still unfit. A slight injury looks like a season ending injury but no one is saying or seems to know what the actual injury is.

I had read somewhere that it required surgery that hadn't been 100% effective???

That game was against Catalan I believe.

Are you asking us if you read it or not



I know it was a groin issue that could have potentially kept him out some time. Looks like it’s done just that. Shame. Be good to get him back for a couple back end of season.

Can't remember where I got the info a couple of weeks ago.

Tbh… as much as I have thrilled to watching Johnstone in a Trinity shirt… and I am grateful for that, the fact he is now moving on means:

1) I don’t care about his fitness or how well he is playing any more
2) he is just another player playing for another club.. a club who I don’t particularly care for… and would happily see lose every game they play.

Loved Wally Lewis in a trinity shirt but hated the Broncos… even when he played for them

Spot on.

It’s never the player it’s the club.

When I hear people spout nonsense about Players who leave as being traitors, or let down by the club, or they will come back to haunt us or worst of the lot he was Wakefield through and through, and all the other cliches I wince.

I wish Tom all the best but Murphy and Kershaw are now my heroes on the wing. Unless he’s a playing against us or for GB I have no further interest in TJ the player.

The king is dead, long live the king.

There is something about all this that seems strange. Like posted previously on his interview nothing is said about his injury, when or if he will be fit to play. Thats the first thing he should have been asked surely !

If the club said to Catalan , take him now for no fee and pay his wage ,he's yours. If you can get him fit and get some games out of him, good luck to you. I would have no problems with this as I think it would benefit everyone , most of all Tom.

Which suggests that he is injured.

Can't see that either tbh.

IMO forget about money and deals. He's injured I know that as fact and he's unlikely to be match fit at a point where it will help us. I just don't see the point of even attempting to play him whether that be us or Catalan.

If I ran the club Catalan I wouldn't expect to take him now, poor business from them. What I would say is let's do a deal. You will keep your new player safe and we will cover some of the costs till the end of the season. A bit like Ellis, a sort of mini transfer fee by proxy. For Catalan this would mean he won't pick up further injuries whilst they can monitor the one he has now. I'd guess the new contract won't come in force until September and will require a medical before signing off. Should TJ fail Catalan can walk away having only wasted a relatively small amount of cash. Trinity can use that spare cash to pay a fit player.

Interestingly it's funny how all of a sudden Bill gets paid off? That money came from somewhere.

Of course I'm speculating wildly and just for fun, I've no idea if you can actually do that kind of stuff.

Didn’t Tupou medically retire on advice? I’m sure there is a difference and insurance would cover this cost. With only 2/3 months left salary anyway it’s not like a huge payoff. There’s nothing in that imo.

Think we are reading too much into it. I doubt Catalans are paying anything to us for any reason regards TJ between now and end of season. Why would they do that when they just don’t need to.