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| Quote ="vastman"I didn't take it off track actually, Redcat did, I'm just responding. You're being a bit precious on this one PT.
I'd love a statue of Neil, I'd want to keep QV, hell I'd even settle for a statue of Keir Hardie, though I draw the line at Arthur Scargill!
It's just a bit of harmless debate, I'm sure Neil wouldn't be offended.'"
To the new vasty and PT partnership.
If I may say so:
a} I didn't try to deflect anything from the Neil Fox thread.I wanted to fully engage with it. He's my hero.
b) I fully appreciate that Queen Victoria was a very influential person whether you like her or not and I personally prefer the Regency period to the Victorian era, vasty.
c ) I did NOT say get rid of the statue of Queen Victoria. I said RELOCATE it back to Thornes Park where it was situated for many years
d) I personally think it is an eyesore, vasty, my own PERSONAL opinion and that is the one that matters to me.
Thankyou
Now may we get back to Neil Fox please.
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| Quote ="Redscat"To the new vasty and PT partnership.
If I may say so:
a} I didn't try to deflect anything from the Neil Fox thread.I wanted to fully engage with it. He's my hero.
b) I fully appreciate that Queen Victoria was a very influential person whether you like her or not and I personally prefer the Regency period to the Victorian era, vasty.
c ) I did NOT say get rid of the statue of Queen Victoria. I said RELOCATE it back to Thornes Park where it was situated for many years
d) I personally think it is an eyesore, vasty, my own PERSONAL opinion and that is the one that matters to me.
Thankyou
Now may we get back to Neil Fox please.'"
Looks like any other statue to me. You're sort of missing the point, it's not about who's what it's about the reasoning. Neil Fox is a hero to all Trinity fans I agree. However, 3,000 for the Hudds game suggests we make up about 1% of the population if that. I'm not convinced you'd get much support for moving a well-known person from history and replacing it with a statue of someone who is now barely known to anyone under the age of fifty or a Trinity fan.
For me, the only place for it is outside BV where it would have some real context. The new stand with the new car park is an ideal opportunity.
If Wakefield were still an RL town I'd be right with you but for now, I don't think it is.
Anyway, it was worth discussing.
If you want to start a fund it page I'm on it
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| Quote ="vastman"Looks like any other statue to me. You're sort of missing the point, it's not about who's what it's about the reasoning. Neil Fox is a hero to all Trinity fans I agree. However, 3,000 for the Hudds game suggests we make up about 1% of the population if that. I'm not convinced you'd get much support for moving a well-known person from history and replacing it with a statue of someone who is now barely known to anyone under the age of fifty or a Trinity fan.
For me, the only place for it is outside BV where it would have some real context. The new stand with the new car park is an ideal opportunity.
If Wakefield were still an RL town I'd be right with you but for now, I don't think it is.
Anyway, it was worth discussing.
If you want to start a fund it page I'm on it
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That bit I agree with. If a statue was ever going to be done it should be at Belle Vue. The place where he is most famous.
Same as Billy Bremner at Elland Road and Kieren Cunningham at St Helens Ground.
Man City have a good one if their heroes.
I'm thinking John Holmes is at Headingley.
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| I think it should be BV - to me that's his home (If Wembley don't recognise him we should!)
I'd be prepared to make a donation - but is there an experienced fundraiser willing to take this on?
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| I would willingly contribute to a Neil Fox statue wherever it is in Wakefield, but I lack such organizational skills, I'm Afraid. I know of one person who posts on here from time to time and, indeed, has carried out extra curricular tasks on behalf of Wakefield Trinity previously.............How busy are you, vasty?
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| Quote ="Redscat"I would willingly contribute to a Neil Fox statue wherever it is in Wakefield, but I lack such organizational skills, I'm Afraid. I know of one person who posts on here from time to time and, indeed, has carried out extra curricular tasks on behalf of Wakefield Trinity previously.............How busy are you, vasty?
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To busy I’m afraid. Also I’m to young, Fox is a legend to me but I never saw him play so I have no real emotions.
I’d contribute but in truth this one is for you older fans to sort it. He’s your hero, mines Nigel Bell.
Just a thought but what about a freeze (if that’s how it’s spelt). Hey say a dozen legends on it and then you may get some fund raising traction, maybe even a doner.
Over to you oldies
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| Quote ="vastman"To busy I’m afraid. Also I’m to young, Fox is a legend to me but I never saw him play so I have no real emotions.
[uI’d contribute but in truth this one is for you older fans to sort it. He’s your hero, mines Nigel Bell.[/u
Just a thought but what about a freeze(if that’s how it’s spelt). Hey say a dozen legends on it and then you may get some fund raising traction, maybe even a doner.
Over to you oldies
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His real hero is Jonty Parkin.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That bit I agree with. If a statue was ever going to be done it should be at Belle Vue. The place where he is most famous.
Same as Billy Bremner at Elland Road and Kieren Cunningham at St Helens Ground.
Man City have a good one if their heroes.
I'm thinking John Holmes is at Headingley.'"
but sadly if the Shudds game is anything to go by very few people would see the statue. I would go for the city centre location. He's a Freeman of Wakefield, nof Belle Vue and from a civic pride point of view a central siting would be better.
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| Daft as it sounds, if every one had contributed £1 at the Huddersfield game we would have had £3166 towards a statue.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Daft as it sounds, if every one had contributed £1 at the Huddersfield we would have had £3166 towards a statue.'"
That pound is for signing Nigel Wright.
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| Quote ="phe13"That pound is for signing Nigel Wright.
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Crikey!! I'd forgotten that! How much was raised, can you remember ? Wish we had him now.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Daft as it sounds, if every one had contributed £1 at the Huddersfield game we would have had £3166 towards a statue.'"
I think I read somewhere that the John Holmes statue at Headingley cost around £100k and going further back Freddie Trueman's and Dickie Bird's being slightly less as they were a few years back.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Crikey!! I'd forgotten that!
How much was raised, can you remember ?[u Wish we had him now[/u.'"
Wouldn't be much good, too old I'm afraid nowadays.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Wouldn't be much good, too old I'm afraid nowadays.'"
He looks fit enough to play.
Gifted is the only word to describe him.
And as for the £1, they never reduced it so we are still paying now. And he's still worth it.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"=#FF0000I think I read somewhere that the John Holmes statue at Headingley cost around £100k and going further back Freddie Trueman's and Dickie Bird's being slightly less as they were a few years back.'"
In that case I think we can forget it, Wollo. The Dickie Bird statue in Barnsley by Grahame Ibbeson cost £60,000 in 2008, so the £100,000 for Homes seems could be correct.
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| Quote ="Redscat"In that case I think we can forget it, Wollo. The Dickie Bird statue in Barnsley by Grahame Ibbeson cost £60,000 in 2008, so the £100,000 for Homes seems could be correct.'"
Just searched a bit and found info that the Freddie Trueman statue, again by Ibbotson, cost £90k. Appeal began in 2007 and statue erected in 2010.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Just searched a bit and found info that the Freddie Trueman statue, again by Ibbotson, cost £90k. Appeal began in 2007 and statue erected in 2010.'"
Guess I haven't kept quite up-to-date with the cost of sculptures. As I say, I think we can forget it. The people of Wakefield would not be interested generally; The Council will reckon that they've contributed enough to WT already and Mr Carter is down to his last £15.000,000
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Looks like it's a job for Sir Rodney then?
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There was a minute when I thought the same, but in light of what has happened over the last few years I think WT and RMW should keep a reasonable distance, but there again if he REALLY WANTS to pay for a statue of Neil. Knowing Rodney he would be more likely to finance a statue of himself though.
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