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| Quote ="Redscat"One word describes the main reason that we did not win last night.......Fages!!
Both of our half backs could not match the skill, ability to be all over the pitch at any given time and execution.
He dictated the play.
How long are we going to stand back at each ptb and let them run at us, then backtrack in the tackle and lose another 5m? We give all opposition 15m/tackle; over 5 tackles that's 75% the length of the pitch. No wonder we're always defending in our own 20.
At every tackle the crowd were demanding that they get on side, but I think it was more the fact that they were far quicker off the mark than we were.
On the rare occasions that we are attacking in the opposition 20m area we must try and come up with a few more adventurous tactics than simply trying to barge over the line. Apart from one man our forwards are far too lightweight for this.
Also last night, we were regressing far too often to Chester style "one man rugby". Three thousand fans could see this, but sadly those that matter can't.
The man in the middle didn't help either..'"
Add to that Levi at 9 those two ran the show all night out line speed was as normal predestination and this enabled Huddersfield to put pressure on us on the last tackle and constantly have to bring the ball away from deep rarely making halfway
Lino also went missing in action Lyne ran sideways all evening again and the outside backs were often the ones taking caries one to four
Max was again outstanding and without him Huddersfield would have put 30-40 points on us
I fear a loss in Toulouse will be a result that costs Trinity SL status let’s hope we can somehow win.
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| Quote ="Manuel"If there are no funds, then we have to loan and swap. With around five players “unavailable” for Toulouse, we have a desperate need to bolster the ranks somehow with players who are interested. Most of this lot already look like they have other gigs lined up and couldn’t give a rat’s booty what happens.
What’s Kyle Wood doing for a month, or Ginger Wood come to that?
We used to have a coach who could find these fringe players.'"
If the 5 unavailable players are Fifita. Lino, Lyne, Miller and Mimms - this is based on who didn't play v Catalan earlier in the season, when Walker & Bowes played in the halves.
I may be doing one of them a did service but, boy, we look like we may struggle to put a meaningful side on the park
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If the 5 unavailable players are Fifita. Lino, Lyne, Miller and Mimms - this is based on who didn't play v Catalan earlier in the season, when Walker & Bowes played in the halves.
I may be doing one of them a did service but, boy, we look like we may struggle to put a meaningful side on the park
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Think someone posted that the French have changed their entry requirements, so they would be able to travel (if it is those you've named) and play in the match.
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| INOUT Quote ="vastman"What rankles with that one is that they are possibly the only club in SL nearly as skint as us.'"
Yet they have a better pack….
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| Quote ="asmadasa"INOUTYet they have a better pack….'"
On paper I disagree.
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That's not the point, the points how have they afforded it?
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That's not the point, the points how have they afforded it?
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| Clearly Watson is a very good coach, and going back 2 or 3 years, players like Hastings, Bibby, Josh Jones, Dudson, Lussick went completely under the radar, no-one, and I mean no-one had them anywhere near getting to the G/F. 2017 & '18 was our chance at glory with similar players, Grix, BJB, Finn, England, Tupou, no-one else took a chance on those players, yet Chester got every ounce out of them every game, and it was a pleasure watching us play.....
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"Clearly Watson is a very good coach, and going back 2 or 3 years, players like Hastings, Bibby, Josh Jones, Dudson, Lussick went completely under the radar, no-one, and I mean no-one had them anywhere near getting to the G/F. 2017 & '18 was our chance at glory with similar players, Grix, BJB, Finn, England, Tupou, no-one else took a chance on those players, yet Chester got every ounce out of them every game, and it was a pleasure watching us play.....'"
CC was a good coach who made some excellent signings. He got it wrong the last few years but the club has been very open regarding the financial hole the game is in so he probably didn't have much to work with.
Yet somehow Salford far more than any other club seem able to spend way beyond their means. But then if you can't even be bothered to run an Academy then that partially explains it.
I have a real dislike for Salford these days, they offer the game absolutely nothing as far as I can tell.
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| Quote ="vastman"CC was a good coach who made some excellent signings. He got it wrong the last few years but the club has been very open regarding the financial hole the game is in so he probably didn't have much to work with.
Yet somehow Salford far more than any other club seem able to spend way beyond their means. But then if you can't even be bothered to run an Academy then that partially explains it.
I have a real dislike for Salford these days, they offer the game absolutely nothing as far as I can tell.'"
Well look at all those ex Salford players I have mentioned, all now at bigger clubs, if transfer fees were involved maybe that explains it, look at the players for us I mentioned, probably none of them have been adequately replaced!
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"Well look at all those ex Salford players I have mentioned, all now at bigger clubs, if transfer fees were involved maybe that explains it, look at the players for us I mentioned, probably none of them have been adequately replaced!'"
That's what I'm saying, they haven't been replaced because we have not got the cash.
I disagree with you in that Salford have. I don't think they have been smart with their finances, I think they are just living totally on the edge.
Every year I'm certain they will fold but they don't but it can't be long now.
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| Quote ="vastman"That's not the point, the points how have they afforded it?'"
That’s a different point than what was being raised… who knows the true finances of these clubs other than those that run them. Do they have any of their squad sat out injured for the season like Trinity?
I agree with others that there just isn’t enough SL standard players within its ageing pack.
Trinity have been found out and there will be a repeat of similar tactics used in the remaining games.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Change of direction, didn't you read the rest.
OR the club can continue on its present path, possibly get relegated and have to start over again under more difficult circumstances.'"
Just interested to see the changes you feel are required, not to judge or anything,more gor debate. I think most supporters are feeling pretty resigned now to another relegation fight and that if we stay up its because there are others who are worse than us. I hadhoped it would be different this year and up until the Salford second half it looked like it would. Since themn our form has fallen off the edge of a cliff.
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| Quote ="vastman"That's what I'm saying, they haven't been replaced because we have not got the cash.
I disagree with you in that Salford have. I don't think they have been smart with their finances, I think they are just living totally on the edge.
Every year I'm certain they will fold but they don't but it can't be long now.'"
Nooooo, Salford under Koukash tried to buy a team, Tim Smith, Chase etc, remember? They got nowhere, they got to 2 finals with the players I mentioned because of Watson mainly. A Few of our signings since 2019, Kopzcak, Brough, Atkins, Gigot....arguably bigger names then Finn, England, etc, did they cost more? I don't have the wage bill, but it's so easy to say yes we are unsuccessful because we have no money!!!
Warrington, last crowned league champions in 1955.....yes 1955, how much money do you think they have invested in trying to be the best?? A few names for you just in the last 25 -30 years......Bateman, Jonathan Davies, Allan Langer, Adrian Morley, Andrew Johns, Matt King, Chris Sandow, Greg Inglis, and so on and so on........the list is endless of successive failures.......
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| Quote ="vastman"
Yet somehow Salford far more than any other club seem able to spend way beyond their means. But then if you can't even be bothered to run an Academy then that partially explains it.
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And don't pay full rent (if any at all) on their ground. Two nice pieces of cash available for 1st team wages.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If the 5 unavailable players are Fifita. Lino, Lyne, Miller and Mimms - this is based on who didn't play v Catalan earlier in the season, when Walker & Bowes played in the halves.
I may be doing one of them a did service but, boy, we look like we may struggle to put a meaningful side on the park
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And yet we only lost 24-22 to Catalans that day.
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