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| Hardaker could play 1 to 5 and, barring Johnstone, he’d be better than what we already have. No doubt at all that he’d improve us on the field. But you can also guarantee there’ll be problems with him at some point as well. If we thought we could get him through to September without any issues he might be worth a short term gamble.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Hardaker could play 1 to 5 and, barring Johnstone, he’d be better than what we already have. No doubt at all that he’d improve us on the field. But you can also guarantee there’ll be problems with him at some point as well. If we thought we could get him through to September without any issues he might be worth a short term gamble.'"
Do you think he's a better centre than Hall, I don't. Hall is on his way up Hardaker is well on his way down. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Ditto Max.
You're not getting the Hardaker of a few years ago, if you were Wigan would let him be late.
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| Quote ="vastman"Do you think he's a better centre than Hall, I don't. Hall is on his way up Hardaker is well on his way down. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Ditto Max.
You're not getting the Hardaker of a few years ago, if you were Wigan would let him be late.'"
At this moment in time, yes, I think he’s better than both. I think we’ve unearthed a gem in Hall and he’s going to be a top player in the future, but he’s not in Hardaker’s league just yet. And should Tupou return to full fitness he’ll move ahead of Hall as well. A back line of Max, Johnstone, Hardaker, Lyne and Tupou would be as good as any in the bottom half of SL. His ability isn’t in question, it’s his off field antics that are the concern.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Absolute waste of space off the field but on the field he is a talent which means somebody somewhere will give him a chance. My money would be on Leeds but I wouldn't rule out FEV'"
Couldn't give a monkeys tbh, he won't be coming to Wakefield that's for sure.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"At this moment in time, yes, I think he’s better than both. I think we’ve unearthed a gem in Hall and he’s going to be a top player in the future, but he’s not in Hardaker’s league just yet. And should Tupou return to full fitness he’ll move ahead of Hall as well. A back line of Max, Johnstone, Hardaker, Lyne and Tupou would be as good as any in the bottom half of SL. His ability isn’t in question, it’s his off field antics that are the concern.'"
Yet you'd stall the development of two young players for an old one who probably won't make a jot of difference.
I'm as peed off as anyone with the last few weeks but I hope we are a bit more strategic than that.
I don't deny he's an experienced and talented player but his career is heading in only one direction.
Sign him by all means if we can afford him but for me, his only position to start with is on the wing to allow Kay to move back to 9 and then see how it goes.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet you'd stall the development of two young players for an old one who probably won't make a jot of difference.
I'm as peed off as anyone with the last few weeks but I hope we are a bit more strategic than that.
I don't deny he's an experienced and talented player but his career is heading in only one direction.
Sign him by all means if we can afford him but for me, his only position to start with is on the wing to allow Kay to move back to 9 and then see how it goes.'"
It’s no different to Tupou coming back in for Hall and he’s a year older than Hardaker. I did mean more of a short term option for this season, but anything longer I agree with and I also don’t think he can trusted over a reasonable length of time.
If I had the choice of a decent 9 or Hardaker, I’d take the 9 and leave Kay on the wing. I think prop and hooker are more of a priority than three quarters.
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| Trinity probably won’t be able to afford him
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet you'd stall the development of two young players=#FF0000 for an old one who probably won't make a jot of difference.
I'm as peed off as anyone with the last few weeks but I hope we are a bit more strategic than that.
I don't deny he's an experienced and talented player but his career is heading in only one direction.
Sign him by all means if we can afford him but for me, his only position to start with is on the wing to allow Kay to move back to 9 and then see how it goes.'"
30 yr old got another 5 -6 seasons in him yet making me feel like a dinosaur
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| It's s buyers market as far as ZH is concerned. There will be strings attached to any club he signs for, and he'll not get offered mega bucks. In last chance saloon again.
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_lol.gif 30 yr old got another 5 -6 seasons in him yet making me feel like a dinosaur
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You are Not for a back he hasn't. He's lost much of his pace, I don't think he's got that long at SL level.
He's also quite ill, suffering from Sticky Mattress Syndrome apparently
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| My money is on a return to Leeds.
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| Don't want him, don't need him.
We have quality centres (when they're all fit!)
We have a quality full back.
Also, I don't see Bill Tupou ousting Hall, the way that lad has been playing. I think it's his place to lose.
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| I preface my comments by saying I really don’t like Zak Hardacre … hoo is personal choices, his attitudes and his habits all repulse me.
He is, however a player that has achieved almost everything in the game… and still with a few years left in the tank. He has regularly torn our defence apart and has improved every team he has played for ( with the possible exception of Penrith) as a player he is better than anything we have had at Trinity for years… and I include all trinity players during that time… his playing record alone proves that.
To suggest otherwise is just silly!
Would I want him at Trinity?
No… but I didn’t want Brough or Cockayne or Westerman either
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| Is he a good player . Yes
Is it in a position that we are struggling . No
If a top class prop came up in these circumstances, then I think it would be worth a gamble. For a FB/ centre then not for me.
Similar to Tony Gigot, yes he is a good player in his own right, but not what we needed.
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| Quote ="snowie"why we had the likes of Leo-latu, Smith, Locke, Moore, Newton, Owen, Kirmond, and Annakin just a quick list of a few that all had off field issues with but were still here aren't we could look for a mother Teresa but I doubt we get one'"
Kirmond?
Have I missing something?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Couldn't give a monkeys tbh, he won't be coming to Wakefield that's for sure.'"
Which doesn't leave him too many options in Yorkshire.
3 West Yorkshire clubs, 2 of which I dont think would have him back, plus Trinity.
Maybe he will end up at one of the Hull clubs ?
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| Let’s face it never going to happen and in fact based on our recruitment i doubt it was ever considered.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Which doesn't leave him too many options in Yorkshire.
3 West Yorkshire clubs, 2 of which I dont think would have him back, plus Trinity.
Maybe he will end up at one of the Hull clubs ?'"
I'm sure it would be better for him but he only needs one option which ever that one that is, unlikely to be us as he's not a priority for us, he's a luxury we cannot afford, shudds might take a chance on him, but Fev's money is as good as anybody's, off the field he's an undesirable he hasn't learned his lesson at his 3 previous clubs but somewhere there will be a coach with an ego as big as his that thinks they can sort him out, so long as it's not our Willie who cares.
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| ZH has signed for Leeds until the end of the season.
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| Quote ="phe13"ZH has signed for Leeds until the end of the season.'"
He'll be singing his favourite song now, I love The Night Life by Alicia Bridges.
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| Quote ="chissitt"He'll be singing his favourite song now, I love The Night Life by Alicia Bridges.'"
I’m sure the local nightlife and pub owners will be looking forward to gaining another busy contributor
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"I’m sure the local nightlife and pub owners will be looking forward to gaining another busy contributor'"
Nah, he's already keeping the ones in his hometown happy
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Stood down for there game against Rovers due to a suspect "seizure"'"
I think you should have added a bit more context
Zak Hardaker was rushed to hospital after suffering a suspected seizure while out on a walk with his young son. The incident took place on Tuesday afternoon, shortly after he had reported to his first Leeds Rhinos training session following his return to the club.
The 30-year-old was taken to Pinderfields hospital before being discharged. Hardaker had been due to speak to the media on Wednesday afternoon but the club said he had been taken ill. As a result, Hardaker will not feature in the Rhinos' game against Hull KR on Friday in what is the latest twist in a rollercoaster week for the former Man of Steel.
Hardaker left Wigan with immediate effect last week and within days had returned to Headingley, where he has previously won three Grand Finals. Hardaker thanked a passing paramedic who attended to him following the event.
Commenting on the incident, Hardaker said: “Firstly, I would like to say a huge thank you to the paramedic who came to my aid and administered first aid before the ambulance arrived, it does not bear to think about what might have been the outcome without her quick thinking. It is so disappointing that I will not get to play on Friday but the Rhinos have given me great support and I will make sure I complete all the tests necessary and I hope to be back on the field as soon as possible.”
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| Hardaker was discharged from Pinderfields probably on the grounds that despite having the technology, the machine could not detect any sign of life between his ears.
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