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| Quote ="vastman"Yep if they stay lucky they will do fine.
Where the hell do they get their money from, I know he's hardly a superstar but all the same. Does anyone get the feeling that Salford is treating this season as poop or bust?'"
It's simple. They don't pay their bills.
The rent at AJB is £450k per annum - they have defaulted every month since they moved in and Salford council have to pay the missing £300k.
They also were in a CVA - they didn't pay it, so it defaulted and was written off.
It's not a sustainable business model, and it's come home to bite them.
The end is near for Salford.
They have less than 1000 ST holders!!!!
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| Quote ="dboy"It's simple. They don't pay their bills.
The rent at AJB is £450k per annum - they have defaulted every month since they moved in and Salford council have to pay the missing £300k.
They also were in a CVA - they didn't pay it, so it defaulted and was written off.
It's not a sustainable business model, and it's come home to bite them.
[uThe end is near for Salford.[/u
They have less than 1000 ST holders!!!!'"
Isn't it illegal to continually trade at a loss?, year on year I mean.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Isn't it illegal to continually trade at a loss?, year on year I mean.'"
They aren't trading at a loss whilst ever someone else is footing their bills.
If you don't pay your rent/mortgage/bills, you won't become bankrupt if I pay them for you.
As I say, the end is near.
* Worth noting - they could pay their bills themselves...but then they couldn't spend all that money on the playing squad!
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| Quote ="dboy"They aren't trading at a loss whilst ever someone else is footing their bills.
If you don't pay your rent/mortgage/bills, you won't become bankrupt if I pay them for you.
As I say, the end is near.
* Worth noting - they could pay their bills themselves...but then they couldn't spend all that money on the playing squad!'"
I agree and it’s an utter disgrace.
Apart from the very real possibility that they are taking the place of a more viable club, there presence puts at risk more viable clubs in SL who may just have a poor season or clubs like us who live within our means.
I don’t mind clubs with poor crowds or stadiums being in SL, so long as they do so within their means. We ourselves have been guilty of this to some degree in the past though nobody ever gave us a new stadium or a mega rich auger daddy but Salford are just brazen.
They cannot survive, they are a dead club walking in their current guise. I used to like Salford but the move and the Dr has made them a non entity off the pitch and a fake on it.
I do feel for what’s left of their old fan base and I’d love to see them rescued and returned to Salford but I can only see that if they drop a division at the same time.
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| I have read somewhere that Sale Sharks RU club are in talks with Salford City FC [owned by Class of 92 Man Utd stars to jointly purchase
A.J.Bell Stadium.
If it happens, reading between the lines, Salord will no longer play at the AJ Bell stadium and could be on their way to a much inferior ground [ i wouldn't call it a Stadium
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| Quote ="KevW60349"I have read somewhere that Sale Sharks RU club are in talks with Salford City FC [owned by Class of 92 Man Utd stars to jointly purchase
A.J.Bell Stadium.
If it happens, reading between the lines, Salord will no longer play at the AJ Bell stadium and could be on their way to a much inferior ground [ i wouldn't call it a Stadium'"
That’s all true but I’d say the Peninsula stadium is actually far more suited to Salford’s current needs.
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| Quote ="vastman"That’s all true but I’d say the Peninsula stadium is actually far more suited to Salford’s current needs.'"
it also shows the 'Holy Grail" of a brand new stadium, might not be actually a Holy Grail...
although I am a little jealous of Salford's recent visit to finals.. would be nice to have some of that!
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| Quote ="Spookisback"it also shows the 'Holy Grail" of a brand new stadium, might not be actually a Holy Grail...
although I am a little jealous of Salford's recent visit to finals.. would be nice to have some of that!'"
I think it actually shows that renting a stadium and not having control over the day to day running and income streams is not the way to go.
Hopefully with MC in charge and with the ground and all the income streams under our own control, then our ground redevelopment will be a much better proposition.
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| Quote ="Spookisback"it also shows the 'Holy Grail" of a brand new stadium, might not be actually a Holy Grail...
although I am a little jealous of Salford's recent visit to finals.. would be nice to have some of that!'"
Didn't seem to do them much good, though Covid restrictions did take the edge off it so some mitigation.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I think it actually shows that renting a stadium and not having control over the day to day running and income streams is not the way to go.
Hopefully with MC in charge and with the ground and all the income streams under our own control, then our ground redevelopment will be a much better proposition.'"
Indeed, some of my SWAG colleagues see it differently but personally, I think we dodged a bullet with N/M. By some bizarre twists of fate, we may well have ended up with the solution best suited to us.
Yes, I'm sure you know who will be frothing at the mouth regarding rip-offs but for those who can see the bigger picture, it's probably for the best long term.
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| Quote ="vastman"Didn't seem to do them much good, though Covid restrictions did take the edge off it so some mitigation.'"
Indeed.
Due to lockdown restrictions, all the benefit, both in terms of revenue and a boost to attendances was completely lost and you have to feel for their fans who missed out on a trip to Wembley.
Would it have made a difference to their current plight, who knows but, it was massively unfortunate for them.
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| Quote ="vastman"Indeed, some of my SWAG colleagues see it differently but personally, I think we dodged a bullet with N/M. By some bizarre twists of fate, we may well have ended up with the solution best suited to us.
Yes, I'm sure you know who will be frothing at the mouth regarding rip-offs but for those who can see the bigger picture, it's probably for the best long term.'"
I think your spot on Vasty, Newmarket would have been difficult for us compared with BV, our match day is a day out and for me the infa structure around NM doesn’t lend itself to that.
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| Quote ="vastman"That’s all true but I’d say the Peninsula stadium is actually far more suited to Salford’s current needs.'"
I’ve never been, but from the photos it looks to be a tidy little stadium. If they could increase the capacity by a couple of thousand it’d be perfect, and isn’t it actually in Salford as well?
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| If somebody offered me 11th place right now I would snap their hands off, I know that may seem pessimistic but I think it is realistic
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"If somebody offered me 11th place right now I would snap their hands off, I know that may seem pessimistic but I think it is realistic'"
Glad you're not the coach then. It's up to you but what's the point in starting the season with that mentality? Honestly, if I felt like that I wouldn't bother.
Finishing 11th would be ok JUST but to snap hands-off for it before a ball is even kicked, sorry but I find that an atrocious attitude but then you probably think I'm stupid for being generally optimistic at the start of every season.
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| The way Toulouse have approached their first SL season reminds me of London and altho ultimately they fell just short, they sure caused a few shocks...in any other season they'd have stayed up
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| Quote ="steve1g"The way Toulouse have approached their first SL season reminds me of London and altho ultimately they fell just short, they sure caused a few shocks...in any other season they'd have stayed up'"
They did, and I know they beat us fair and square, but they were also helped by some teams that they played at the time....
No names - Saints...... (cough)
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| For Saints then read Catalans now??
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| Quote ="vastman"Glad you're not the coach then. It's up to you but what's the point in starting the season with that mentality? Honestly, if I felt like that I wouldn't bother.
Finishing 11th would be ok JUST but to snap hands-off for it before a ball is even kicked, sorry but I find that an atrocious attitude but then you probably think I'm stupid for being generally optimistic at the start of every season.'"
There is nothing wrong with being optimistic and I think with a good run of injuries and a bit of luck here and there we could make the top 6 but on the flip side with bad injures and some bad luck we will be struggling near the bottom.
I know my opinion on finishing 11th will not be popular but I wouldn't be surprised if we had the 11th or 12th highest Wage Bill so it may well be realistic?
I agree that we should not be aiming to finish 11th and I think the players and coach will be targeting the playoffs.
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| Quote ="steve1g"For Saints then read Catalans now??'"
That would be like Saints helping Wigan ??
Catalan dont want to share the French player pool but, they will be ok to let Toulouse have any "cast offs".
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"There is nothing wrong with being optimistic and I think with a good run of injuries and a bit of luck here and there we could make the top 6 but on the flip side with bad injures and some bad luck we will be struggling near the bottom.
I know my opinion on finishing 11th will not be popular but I wouldn't be surprised if we had the 11th or 12th highest Wage Bill so it may well be realistic?
I agree that we should not be aiming to finish 11th and I think the players and coach will be targeting the playoffs.'"
We have to be "aiming" at top 6, probably knowing that 8/9th will be ok.
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| New vaccine rules in France May help both Toulouse and Catalan now. Hope we don’t have any unvaccinated players as they won’t be allowed over.
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| Quote ="supercat"New vaccine rules in France May help both Toulouse and Catalan now. Hope we don’t have any unvaccinated players as they won’t be allowed over.'"
That will be a huge boost to Catalans and Tolouse throughout the season. That will create some serious problems in terms of a level playing field. Not their fault of course but they stand to benefit on the playing field.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That will be a huge boost to Catalans and Tolouse throughout the season. That will create some serious problems in terms of a level playing field. Not their fault of course but they stand to benefit on the playing field.'"
Another reason why its wrong having teams from different countries in our league i know if for a different topic but still the rules will effect the league
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That will be a huge boost to Catalans and Tolouse throughout the season. That will create some serious problems in terms of a level playing field. Not their fault of course but they stand to benefit on the playing field.'"
That’s providing all their players are vaccinated as well. If not they could only be at full strength for away games.
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