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| Quote ="RickK"Vastham you were wrong at 4000, again at 3500 maybe another guess'"
Maybe you should read the full thread as I’ve already stated that
I now know the exact figure, do you?
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| No, so do tell me, tell us all to stop the wild guessing, which you started at 4000 by the way.
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| Quote ="RickK"No, so do tell me, tell us all to stop the wild guessing, which you started at 4000 by the way.'"
I wouldn't tell you or any of your little gang anything so you can whistle.
3-4000 is hardly a wild guess for a ground that holds potentially three times that, grow up.
Note the word 'potentially before you say something daft.
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| No gang Vestman just me.
I take your refusal as an I don't know a bit of blustering and your early guesses are way out.
The last from me on this one, unless you can share the information that you claim to have on Sunday's attendance and that is of interest to many..
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| Quote ="RickK"No gang Vestman just me.
I take your refusal as an I don't know a bit of blustering and your early guesses are way out.
The last from me on this one, unless you can share the information that you claim to have on Sunday's attendance and that is of interest to many..'"
Yeah right
I e-mailed Michael Carter and asked him. He told me, as viewing it on TV I wasn't so sure anymore. If you want to know then e-mail him, he might tell you too but I have no wish to betray a confidense.
My guess wasn't way out, by the way, I overestimated by a small amount statistically, that's what guesses are all about doh. Something I'd already realised as per my revised post yesterday. This really is a cheap attempt to points score on your behalf but I'm not surprised.
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| As you've brought a bit of new information to the table I thought I'd better respond. Michael Carter has told you the figure but in confidence which matters not as you've already said that you wouldn't tell me anyway (very adult response) or the band of helpers that you mistakenly believe I have to help me write these posts. My guess is between 2300 and 2400 and the figure MC gave you will be around that, which brings me to you 'overestimated by a small amount statistically in my book of sums 1700 isn't that small nor is 1300 which comes from your 4000 and 3500 guesses doh and yes both guesses were way out. Not points scoring just challenging incorrect information.
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| Hey,vasty old chap. Have yor ever been, or considered becoming, a Tory politician by any chance
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| Quote ="Redscat"Hey,vasty old chap. Have yor ever been, or considered becoming, a Tory politician by any chance
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God no, but even less so Labour
I inflict my opinions on here for fun, I play devils advocate to create a debate and challenge perceived ideas, not that some seem to get that! I only rarely do so in the real world about things that really matter and then in a far more considered manner.
I know what I think and believe but have never felt the need to convert others.
I'm very much of the Adam Smith style, free-thinking and self-responsible, I don't want or need to be told how to think and I have no wish to do the same to others.
To me, politics is just about a necessary evil as I accept that far too many people either don't or can't think for themselves. You can add religion to that.
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| Quote ="RickK"As you've brought a bit of new information to the table I thought I'd better respond. Michael Carter has told you the figure but in confidence which matters not as you've already said that you wouldn't tell me anyway (very adult response) or the band of helpers that you mistakenly believe I have to help me write these posts. My guess is between 2300 and 2400 and the figure MC gave you will be around that, which brings me to you 'overestimated by a small amount statistically in my book of sums 1700 isn't that small nor is 1300 which comes from your 4000 and 3500 guesses doh and yes both guesses were way out. Not points scoring just challenging incorrect information.'"
Then ask him.
I have a slightly open door to MC/JM and I mean slightly due to a couple of projects I've done, I'm one of those annoying fans who puts his money where his mouth is. Why should I share that with you? Someone who just snipes?
You seem very sure about your figures, not sure why.
Finally, even if I were that wrong why would it matter? I said it was a guess from the start, the word guess should be the clue, if I'd have stated it as a fact then you'd have a point. So it's VERY much is points scoring on your part because by definition a guess isn't information is it. Not as smart as you think you are aye Rick.
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| Always said get on field correct get a few wins in a row hopefully ground improvements we will start to get fab crowds.
When I was younger sound town all I saw was rhino shirts now I'm seeing more and more trinity. Apart from the sold out stock too often our merchandise has been first class.
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| 'My guess wasn't way out, by the way, I overestimated by a small amount statistically' your words and now my comments 1700 and 1300 a small maybe not such a small amount. against about a figure of 2300/2400
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| Quote ="RickK"'My guess wasn't way out, by the way, I overestimated by a small amount statistically' your words and now my comments 1700 and 1300 a small maybe not such a small amount. against about a figure of 2300/2400'"
God, you’re a bore. If you think there were only 2400 in that ground you're wrong.
Apart from what I’m told I took the bother using Trinity TV to actually count them.
I may be a few dozen out and I didn’t include the boxes but I’m closer than you.
I get approx 2,800, probably add another 100 in the boxes and visiting the bogs and I\d say 2,900.
That puts it somewhere between my lowest guess, remember the word guess and yours.
Try it, doesn’t take long, HD is a wonderful tool.
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| Quote ="vastman"God, you’re a bore. If you think there were only 2400 in that ground you're wrong.
Apart from what I’m told I took the bother using Trinity TV to actually count them.
I may be a few dozen out and I didn’t include the boxes but I’m closer than you.
I get approx 2,800, probably add another 100 in the boxes and visiting the bogs and I\d say 2,900.
That puts it somewhere between my lowest guess, remember the word guess and yours.
Try it, doesn’t take long, HD is a wonderful tool.
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When I watched it there was a big bloke sat in front of me right in the camera line so wouldn't have been able to see me.
So actually 2,901 is probably more accurate......
I'll get my coat........ Sorry.
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| Quote ="PopTart"When I watched it there was a big bloke sat in front of me right in the camera line so wouldn't have been able to see me.
So actually 2,901 is probably more accurate......
I'll get my coat........ Sorry.'"
Your wish is granted.
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| Nowhere near 2900
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| Quote ="vastman"God, you’re a bore. If you think there were only 2400 in that ground you're wrong.
Apart from what I’m told I took the bother using Trinity TV to actually count them.
I may be a few dozen out and I didn’t include the boxes but I’m closer than you.
I get approx 2,800, probably add another 100 in the boxes and visiting the bogs and I\d say 2,900.
That puts it somewhere between my lowest guess, remember the word guess and yours.
Try it, doesn’t take long, HD is a wonderful tool.
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FWIW over the years I've become reasonably accurate with crowd estimates at BV and I would say that you're not far off with that figure, vasty.
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| He is and you are as well
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| Quote ="Redscat"FWIW over the years I've become reasonably accurate with crowd estimates at BV and I would say that you're not far off with that figure, vasty.'"
It's not too difficult under normal circumstances, working on the usual 4k average of the faithful add on some extras and part timers depending on the visiting team, plus the away support on the western terrace which isn't all that difficult to estimate and you'll not be far off, but we aren't playing to regular crowds atm which makes it a lot harder to estimate, not sure why the club can't give out the attendances as normal fwiw.
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| Other than using it as yet another stick to beat the club with, I don't see a great need to know the exact crowd figure. Going by info coming out of the club shop on Facebook and Twitter we appear to get to as near a sell out as makes no difference which is all that matters currently.
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| Quote ="RickK"Nowhere near 2900'"
I wouldn’t know didn’t really count them, how gullible are you.
I do however think my estimate, or guess as normal people call them, is close enough, especially with a little bit of top notch info.
I know that last by infuriates you and your silent twin musson (2 can play at that game) but I can’t help it if I know stuff you don’t
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Other than using it as yet another stick to beat the club with, I don't see a great need to know the exact crowd figure. Going by info coming out of the club shop on Facebook and Twitter we appear to get to as near a sell out as makes no difference which is all that matters currently.'"
I actually have no idea what if any figures the club is obliged to give.
I do know that in the past some clubs gave a paying attendance whilst others gave a figure that included everyone in attendance, paying or not, even the players!
Why someone is so infuriated by a guess baffles me. Have the club even released a figure?
Truth is who cares, one thing I’m certain of is that there were more for that game than the previous two. Who knows we may even have made a profit, now that matters.
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| Quote ="vastman"I wouldn’t know didn’t really count them, how gullible are you.
I do however think my estimate, or guess as normal people call them, is close enough, especially with a little bit of top notch info.
I know that last by infuriates you and your silent twin musson (2 can play at that game) but I can’t help it if I know stuff you don’t
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No idea why you keep adding names that I may be colluding with, it's just something else for you to be wrong about and I don't know what you are suggesting infuriates me. Not sure the game you think is being played, once again wrong, I'm just responding to your posts as an individual and I have no need to gang up on anyone, in fact, the suggestion is a very school playground comment
You should have a look at the thread with the council's response to what the reduced capacity is, it is 31% of the capacity, get your calculator out see what it comes to and how close your estimate is.
No need for hints about your contacts you've already let us know you have a bit of an in at the Club.
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| Remember in the Glover administration we would get 6500 for Catalans at home
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| Quote ="charlie"Remember in the Glover administration we would get 6500 for Catalans at home
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In fairness we probably did but that was because half got in free, allegedly.
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