I remember when sending the Wingers/Centres in for drives on the first play or first and second play was to give the forwards a rest, these days, the forwards don`t even seem to do much!

Baffles me we stick with it regardless, the other week we conceded 2 consecutive Goal Line Dropouts because we thought 1 metre from our own line, under massive pressure, our best idea was to send Innes Senior in... That ball goes to Tanginoa, who is there ready to take the ball, we don`t concede cheap possession like that.

I was just going to mention this myself, Timmy. The idea of making the wing men take the ball forward in the first two tackles started at the time of the two wingers that you mention. It was quite a successful tactic at the time, but seems less effective now that it has become commonplace. Although TJ tends to use the move to good effect at times.

Chester wants all the backs to do 20 carries and at least 100m per match which is stupid its the forwards job.

I don't think Chester knows that there are different positions, and that those different positions require different skill sets and attributes.

Why don’t you apply for the position of Coach, you must have plenty of coaching qualifications, I say “put up or shut up”

Because I enjoy being successful at my current job, though I'm pretty convinced I could match Chester's 2021 win rate

Chief Exec at Moaners Inc?

Course he is...just in time to kick the winning dg in another disappointing close encounter we should have won by 10

We don’t have much luck do we lol.

Gale back early from injury first game.
Tomkins returned against us last week and put in some good assists.
Gale returns again in a rudderless Leeds team since he’s been injured.

Still we need to be targeting this Leeds game and making it our first win of the season.

I agree...focus on the positives we'll take from beating a fully fit Leeds team that includes Gayle & his dg's

Point 1, gale was probably the worst leeds player on the pitch in first game even laying on a try for tommy
Point 2 but whitley who is a better player was missing instead
Point 3 leeds aint been any better with gale

We have got to stop blaming bad luck you make ya own luck in anything in life fact is where on a 8 streak losing run (counting the last 2 games from last season)and somthing like 8 wins in 43.......

See my post on the shame & pride thread and you'll see I'm certainly not blaming bad luckicon_smile.gif

Mate I’m sorry but I’m not getting involved if it’s going to turn into another thread about our losing run and so many wins in this etc. It’s been done to death and we know already what the state of play is.

I think Gale brings a lot more structure to Leeds than you give him credit for and fact is the only game they won was with him on the field.

Tomkins is the best full back in Superleague presently imo and he had a huge influence and hand in stretching our line for the try’s out wide.

I’m not blaming bad luck at all and you need not be so presumptous. It just seems opposition pivotal players return for games against wakey a lot. That’s just the way it is. I would be more concerned about our lack of options at 9, 6 and 1 for the upcoming games.

I would hope regardless who plays we can turn our fortunes around this coming 4 games. Because if we don’t we are In trouble. This is the most important part of the season for us coming up.

It`s funny you say Leeds aren`t a better side with Gale, I was listening to a podcast last night (The Full 80) they said on there Leeds haven't won a game that Gale wasn't playing in since he signed so that would suggest you are wrong.

You are getting your Tomkins mixed up because it was his brothers first game back not Sam.

Ah fair enough. I completely forgot about Joel Tomkins.

Im.on about this season and them.been better with him which bar in the game against us theybhavent won

Leeds will still be missing several players for the clash on Sky. It is clearly a game we can win, in fact it is a game we must win.

A few of these players are only squad players it’s worth noting that usually would t feature in the first team.

Eastmond and Gale are back.

Is Eastmond not a squad player? think there first choice full back is Jack walker (injured), Stand off Robert Lui (injured) their second choice half back Mclelland (injured) second choice full back Myler (suspended) Harry Newman first choice centre (injured), Zane tetevano first choice loose forward (suspended), Cameron Smith number 17 (injured) , Thereafter I agree that we are into squad players

At the moment it looks like of our first choice 17 we are probably lacking miller josh woods ashurst so whilst I accept that Leeds have a bigger squad than us you would say that they have more injuries than us by some margin

Currently the only team that they have beaten is us !

Our next four games are leeds hull kr huddersfield and leigh if we are serious about staying up we need at least 4 ideally 6 points in this period. Failure to achieve this leaves our only hope of staying up being beating leigh twice

You also missed TJ from our list and if your including Mclelland you can include Hampshire who is our back up half option. Also you can include Walker as our back up full back option.

Think it’s pretty even on the injury front. That said this game against Leeds is a very winnable fixture and this next 4 games I think anything less than 2 wins will be disastrous. I really hope we come up with the business. There has been steady improvements the last 2 games. The sooner that win comes the better.

As far as I m aware Johnston will be available for Leeds so no I didn’t forget him, I did point out that mclelsnd muller and east mind were second choice - and excluded them from the analysis - that’s why I submit bother mentioning players at our club that aren’t in the 1-17

Regardless it’s about evens on injury front. I hope you are right and TJ will be playing but unable to train for 4 weeks and being match ready is optimistic imho. I hope he does play though. Will be a big boost.

I’m hoping Alex Walker will be back too so we have a full back option. We’ll see soon enough when squads are announced.

Are you sure he’s unable to train, not saying you’re wrong but I can’t find where he can’t train other than contact?

I’m sure I read it in an article a few weeks ago. Certainly saw it referenced somewhere though it could’ve just been on the forum. I hope that he has been able to at least do some light training and running to keep his fitness up.

Suppose it’ll come out on Wednesday with the team.