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He can bankrupt himself because as we know there ain't a lot out there and what is seems to be tied up.
I'm delighted for Leigh but SL is a lot tighter than it was when they were last in, especially in the 'lower six'. It's going to be very difficult, they are going to have to do a London and work with what they have imho.
My issue with the poster is his idea that Leigh is any more dangerous to us than any other promoted team. They are all potentially a threat but that's all it is for now.
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He can bankrupt himself because as we know there ain't a lot out there and what is seems to be tied up.
I'm delighted for Leigh but SL is a lot tighter than it was when they were last in, especially in the 'lower six'. It's going to be very difficult, they are going to have to do a London and work with what they have imho.
My issue with the poster is his idea that Leigh is any more dangerous to us than any other promoted team. They are all potentially a threat but that's all it is for now.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"So where have Leigh strengthened exactly? Justify where Leigh is going to get these players from, other than the defunct Toronto team? Leigh finished 4th in 2019 in the Championship yet you are giving them m full SL accreditation, why?
Again do quality players coming back from long term injuries not count in your world?
Do players like Wood and Walker and young Harry Bowes who made their mark last season not count.
Does the fact that players like Jowitt, Batchelor and Crowther are now players starting to reach their peak, does that not count?
Building a team is not all about signings, it's about the balance and building, why do you assume they're all these magic bullet signing out there? Why not instead look for growth within, that's how the best clubs do it, only mugs think you can buy success.
Finally, Mason Lino is not an 'unknown quantity' any more than any other signing with a fair few NRL games under his belt. In fact if you go on youtube or the Knights forum you'll see he's a very 'known' quantity. Who are these known quantities of which you speak?
NB: If we have lost BJB it's certainly not been made official unless I missed it, he's out of contract, that is not the same thing!'"
Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in'"
None of whom would get into our first 17. They will be competitive but they will go straight back down by a distance in the end.
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in'"
Really, so how many of those would you sign, clutching at straws or what.
I ask again, who are these other players, the pickings are incredibly thin at present. We are struggling here to come up with names, There are probably no more than half a dozen players who've been signed this year so far that I think would add greatly to our team. None of those players are in that list you gave.
Petru had signed for Leigh to play Championship RL, only Flowers could be said to have signed at a point when Leigh might have had a good idea they were in.
Has Leigh got any players who when on form are as good as Miller, Fifita, TJ, BJB, Tupou, Arona, Jowitt etc etc and not least Tanginoa? Leigh would give their eye teeth for those players
You're entitled to your opinion, I just can't see the justification.
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I think they will have to open the cheque book but who of any real qualitys available.
On the whole its a disappointing choice.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Really, so how many of those would you sign, clutching at straws or what.
I ask again, who are these other players, the pickings are incredibly thin at present. We are struggling here to come up with names, There are probably no more than half a dozen players who've been signed this year so far that I think would add greatly to our team. None of those players are in that list you gave.
Petru had signed for Leigh to play Championship RL, only Flowers could be said to have signed at a point when Leigh might have had a good idea they were in.
Has Leigh got any players who when on form are as good as Miller, Fifita, TJ, BJB, Tupou, Arona, Jowitt etc etc and not least Tanginoa? Leigh would give their eye teeth for those players
You're entitled to your opinion, I just can't see the justification.'"
It is about opinions yes but adam walker blake wallace ben flower matty russel are all good enough to get in the wakey team is it me or have you forgot we won a total of 8 games in somthing like the last 42 so how current crop can be over assesd i dont know and this isnt me been against our players as it is what it is but i will stand by my opinion we will be in a battle with leigh kr and maybe salford i mean lets not forget no one expected us to go down to a do or die game with london
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I don't see that squad as a threat. The last time Leigh played in SL they employed approaching thuggery tactics and on the whole got away with it.
I think they will have to open the cheque book but who of any real qualitys available.
On the whole its a disappointing choice.'"
I revenue terms its great for us as noted.
In squad terms the only club that had a genuine shout it was London, who effectively still have the best part of an SL squad or at least one with recent experience.
Truth is Leigh probably did tick every other box and to be fair squad strength is very subjective.
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"It is about opinions yes but adam walker blake wallace ben flower matty russel are all good enough to get in the wakey team is it me or have you forgot we won a total of 8 games in somthing like the last 42 so how current crop can be over assesd i dont know and this isnt me been against our players as it is what it is but i will stand by my opinion we will be in a battle with leigh kr and maybe salford i mean lets not forget no one expected us to go down to a do or die game with london'"
They may be good enough but they sure as hell aren't better, there is not a single Trinity player I'd replace with any of those.
Are you seriously suggesting any of those are in the same class as Miller, Fifita, TJ, BJB, Tupou, Arona and Tanginoa? I think most would dispute that.
Yeah, we have had a couple of bad years but you know full well what went wrong in 2019, a very excusable season. 2020 less so, though we rallied pretty easily at the end when....you guessed it, our best players started to return in number. It's not rocket science.
By comparison what experience do Leigh have of SL. Some players have experience but as a team? Zero.
As I say I'm not doubting they will give it a shot, they may even do well and stay up, heck they could even do quite well. However, on paper, which is all we have at the moment, they are miles off and still will be when 2021 kicks off.
Let's be realistic.
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"It is about opinions yes but adam walker blake wallace ben flower matty russel are all good enough to get in the wakey team is it me or have you forgot we won a total of 8 games in somthing like the last 42 so how current crop can be over assesd i dont know and this isnt me been against our players as it is what it is but i will stand by my opinion we will be in a battle with leigh kr and maybe salford i mean lets not forget no one expected us to go down to a do or die game with london'"
Adam Walker is no longer at at Leigh. Matty Russell was the second best winger at Toronto when him and Liam Kay were there. Blake Wallace would be fifth choice halfback here behind Lino, Miller, Hampshire & Gigot. Ben Flower at a push would make the 17 if he is actually fit and available to play, which is sporadic. So we may be down the bottom but there is nothing to fear from Leigh.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We may have a better squad but it’s what you produce with them and over the last two seasons this as been less than impressive. We had survived for many of the early years with a squad considered to be inferior to many but because of team spirit and coaches getting the best out of what they had at the time.'"
Really. Funny how on both occasions when injuries subsided we recovered form. I don’t know what world some live in but if I was missing one leg and one arm I think I’d struggle, wouldn’t you?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell". I think even the most die hard Wakefield supporter must say that Hull KR for example have strengthened .'"
Hull KR released 11 players at the end of the season. Add to that Robbie Mulhearn has now gone to Warrington.
Over to you:
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Hull KR released 11 players at the end of the season. Add to that Robbie Mulhearn has now gone to Warrington.
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And brought in better players like korbin simms and a forward who was regularly on bench for melbourne l.
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| Quote ="vastman"Really. Funny how on both occasions when injuries subsided we recovered form. I don’t know what world some live in but if I was missing one leg and one arm I think I’d struggle, wouldn’t you?'"
I don’t remember us winning many games in the 2019 season when the injuries subsided or am I wrong.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Hull KR released 11 players at the end of the season. Add to that Robbie Mulhearn has now gone to Warrington.
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We have released 5, with one also ending their loan, BJB unsigned and so far signed one so over to you. I believe we start training next week with an incomplete squad hopefully.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We have released 5, with one also ending their loan, BJB unsigned and so far signed one so over to you. I believe we start training next week with an incomplete squad hopefully.'"
Hull KR released 11 players at the end of the season. Add to that Robbie Mulhearn has now gone to Warrington.
How have Hull KR strengthened was the question.
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No more or less than any of the other teams.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I don’t remember us winning many games in the 2019 season when the injuries subsided or am I wrong.'"
When did the injuries subside in 2019?
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They subsided in 2021
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| Quote ="Jose"When did the injuries subside in 2019?'"
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"And brought in better players like korbin simms and a forward who was regularly on bench for melbourne l.'"
Nor in Simms is probably the best of the three brothers but his peak passes some time back.
So he and the Melbourne bench warmer are going to make HKR world beaters?
Is the bench warmer a proven quantity?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We have released 5, with one also ending their loan, BJB unsigned and so far signed one so over to you. I believe we start training next week with an incomplete squad hopefully.'"
LOL, when does any team start training with a complete squad before the new year!
Tinkering to the last moment is part of it.
The core is there, where as by your reckoning HKR are still half a team light!
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Every year the same chikin lickin people come on and kindly explain to us all just why the era of Trinity is about to end. Well, thanks.
NEWSFLASH! We already know the problems facing the club, we don't live in a bubble, well not that kind of bubble. Despite plenty of valid excuses we all know that on occasions some players failed to do their best as did the coaches as did the BOD. They have all admitted mistakes were made, the results clearly showed that on occasion they were.
So what, that was last year, move on for heaven's sake. This is a new season, fresh slate, some new players, some players returning, some good youngsters keen to make a mark. Above even that there is a Coach who even to the most demented and negative of minds they can't possibly believe that he wants to repeat last year, why would anybody think he hasn't learned some valuable lesson?
Every season is a fresh start and anyone who's supported any team for any length of time knows that things change and a few bad years are often followed by a few good ones. Sometimes its a few key signings but mostly it's a positive response from the players already at the club.
As fans, our job is to support the club and on the day the players, nothing more. We can have opinions on matches and players but other than that nobody on here has the inside knowledge to comment further. You can speculate wildly if you must but any attempt to add a layer of knowledge onto that is just laughable.
We don't know the club's plans, we don't know the final team, we don't know the tactics and training and above all, we don't know the mentality in the camp. So, in the same way, I'm not going to predict a double-winning season for Trinity then can the doom-mongers cut out the nonsense regarding relegation and our supposed inferiority to Leigh.
Thanks and enjoy the 2021 season, not like you can do anything to change it.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Every year the same chikin lickin people come on and kindly explain to us all just why the era of Trinity is about to end. Well, thanks.
NEWSFLASH! We already know the problems facing the club, we don't live in a bubble, well not that kind of bubble. Despite plenty of valid excuses we all know that on occasions some players failed to do their best as did the coaches as did the BOD. They have all admitted mistakes were made, the results clearly showed that on occasion they were.
So what, that was last year, move on for heaven's sake. This is a new season, fresh slate, some new players, some players returning, some good youngsters keen to make a mark. Above even that there is a Coach who even to the most demented and negative of minds they can't possibly believe that he wants to repeat last year, why would anybody think he hasn't learned some valuable lesson?
Every season is a fresh start and anyone who's supported any team for any length of time knows that things change and a few bad years are often followed by a few good ones. Sometimes its a few key signings but mostly it's a positive response from the players already at the club.
As fans, our job is to support the club and on the day the players, nothing more. We can have opinions on matches and players but other than that nobody on here has the inside knowledge to comment further. You can speculate wildly if you must but any attempt to add a layer of knowledge onto that is just laughable.
We don't know the club's plans, we don't know the final team, we don't know the tactics and training and above all, we don't know the mentality in the camp. So, in the same way, I'm not going to predict a double-winning season for Trinity then can the doom-mongers cut out the nonsense regarding relegation and our supposed inferiority to Leigh.
Thanks and enjoy the 2021 season, not like you can do anything to change it.'"
There has to be an element of sitting on any brass that we may have earmarked for new and additional players.
Without any certainty of spectators being allowed in for the start of the new season, it makes financial sense to keep hold of the pennies.
Bringing new players in a little later than usual isn't ideal but, the season doesn't start until March (it was the end of Jan last season) and it's yet another challenge for the players and staff and the club.
Everyone starts on 0 points so, it's all to play for.
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Without any certainty of spectators being allowed in for the start of the new season, it makes financial sense to keep hold of the pennies.
Bringing new players in a little later than usual isn't ideal but, the season doesn't start until March (it was the end of Jan last season) and it's yet another challenge for the players and staff and the club.
Everyone starts on 0 points so, it's all to play for.'"
Clean slate for everyone.
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