We all see different things so I'll have to disagree....

BJB is class and has scored lots of long range tries in Super League...the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues.

If BJB is not re signed by Trinity due to the finances then I hope Kay proves me wrong and scores lots of tries and stays fit for the next two seasons as he's signed for Trinity for 2021 and 2022.....

We aren't disagreeing. BJB is without doubt the better winger, I thought I’d made that point. What I’m saying is Kaye will do a job and as such shouldn’t be underrated.

Most teams go through phases, for a few years our threat has come from the wings due to having two excepts players in that position. Now it will possibly change and be more driven by say Lino’s creativity or an aggressive pack , who knows, nothing last forever.

We were lucky to get BJB but the chances of replacing him like for like are virtually nil. So the king is possibly dead, so long live the king as they say.

I can't see Ben retiring with the world cup next year.

Certainly more than capable for another year, hopefully we get a deal done.

BJB would a massive loss, I hope this is not true
This season has being a nightmare for us and his return was one of the catalysts to us turning it around

He’s a brilliant all round winger, fast, excellent in the air, strong finisher, very strong under a bomb, defensively reads the game as good as anyone we’ve ever had at Wakey, I can’t think of a single mistake he’s made (not to say he hasn’t mind as that would be near impossible)
He’s also very experienced

Defo not some one that can easily be replaced

You’re right pal
There were two games this year all be it I can’t think who against where Kaye had the chance with an open line to show how fast he was but he looked v slow

Might have being sts where he was caught from behind by a back row / prop

Also Agree with everything in your last paragraph plus to add to it I’m not sure how confident he is under a bomb

All said if Kaye ends up being a starting winger for us I’ll back him like I would do any other Wakey player

I too noticed that, he was caught by a supposedly slower player.

Yet only month earlier I saw him ripping it up for Toronto. So what are you suggesting, he’s suddenly lost the use of his legs?

He wasn’t the only player being easily brought down in those games now was he. Whatever was wrong with us in those games it wasn’t just him.

My only concern is that Kaye didn’t feature at all towards the end. He may have been injured I don’t know.

What I did note was not any lack of pace but a lot of points shifted down his side, however as is the case with wingers it’s not always easy to spot who’s at fault.

Kaye was an opportunity signing for me, with Bush still out and an impressive record and an ex Academy product we had to sign him.

Whether he’s the answer I don’t know but let’s be realistic, neither is BJB at 32, that’s old for a wingman. Personally wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually gets another year, we’ve been through this dance before.

Well I would be extremely disappointed if BJB went to Leigh while we are left with Kaye.

Where has the Leigh bit come from?

Leigh are in for a number of players and I see no reason why they would not be interested in BJB.
Its not been announced its just a possibility.
The refferance with Kays because he used to play for Leigh.
Maybe they could be interested in Kaye.

A shame if BJB goes, still a classy winger and was looking like his old self again at the end of the season. Kay and Kershaw are ok but not as good as him, the team will be worse off for him not being in it. Kay had a bad ankle injury a couple of years back and it seems to have taken the edge off his pace. He’s not slow but he doesn’t seem as sharp as he one was.

Could see him in the CHAMPIONSHIP excluding maybe 2-3 sides, would be an excellent signing for Dewsbury linking up with FINN or perhaps Bradford with KEAR, ENGLAND and BROUGH.

Hopefully kaye will work out
As with all our players I want them to do well for us

However regardless of how many incredibly long posts you type........

Kaye isn’t a fast winger

He is, take a look at his highlights on you know what. Shirt enough for you?

You can post YouTube links now. The rules have been loosened a bit.
If it's offensive then the poster obviously be dealt with appropriately but you can post standard links on rugby certainly.

Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.

Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.

Quote ="Fishermanscap"Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.'" Cheers Vasty!

Quote ="Fishermanscap"Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.'" Cheers Vasty!

How very dare you!

He's certainly not like that now. last season He wouldn't chase back after 10 yards he'd give it up as a bad job

Quote ="Fishermanscap"Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.'" Not too sure what that proves? First link, he is getting chased down by part time Sheffield Eagles prop and second rower (Who he just manages to beat) and second link is 7 years ago when he was 21?

Quote ="Fishermanscap"Just to help out and risk being called Vasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0X2oydtZH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXJgwLgi_4 Reasonable pace imo but nothing special, reliable though. Couldn't find a highlight video, odd for a player who's scored so many.'" Not too sure what that proves? First link, he is getting chased down by part time Sheffield Eagles prop and second rower (Who he just manages to beat) and second link is 7 years ago when he was 21?

That was a quick log out and log back in Vasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddu5qZp384E Skip to around the 4 min mark, Rangi Chase's last game for Castleford with WAKEFIELD securing the win in the dying seconds. Kay outpaces local fat lad Jordan Tansey, after Ali Lau provides the pass. He wasn't all too fast there and Kay has since bulked up, sitting around 8kg heavier than previous and is a good 6-7 years older. I'd imagine TJ, Tupou, Rocky, Bish and Kershaw are in front of him... maybe even the BIG boys in Kelepi/Lyne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddu5qZp384E Skip to around the 4 min mark, Rangi Chase's last game for Castleford with WAKEFIELD securing the win in the dying seconds. Kay outpaces local fat lad Jordan Tansey, after Ali Lau provides the pass. He wasn't all too fast there and Kay has since bulked up, sitting around 8kg heavier than previous and is a good 6-7 years older. I'd imagine TJ, Tupou, Rocky, Bish and Kershaw are in front of him... maybe even the BIG boys in Kelepi/Lyne.

HAVE YOU ever realised that HOMME VASTE translates to vast man in FREnch?

You logged in pretty quickly after homme vaste too …

BECAUSE we're the same person.