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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"It was a great show, can’t fault the effort and determination of any player tonight, that’s all anyone asks. Thought the turning point was wood going over he’d of made that tackle on LMS under posts'"
Not sure if Tangata & Bailey didn’t bump each other off the tackle on LMS, if so it was unfortunate!
Great effort from the players, Wood was outstanding in defence, Croft looked much better in his more familiar Left Centre position, Hampshire’s kicking game kept turning Sts around and forcing them to start from deep. Westerman stood up well, Tanginoa constantly brought 3 or 4 defenders in but still made good ground and the rest had a go!
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| So what does that performance tell you where the problems are, with the coaches or the players?? Last week good prep, same 17 picked from the week before and a crap performance, this week our so called better players ruled out, lot of disruption, yet we play like that?! I've said on here before that Chester has too many options and it's messing with his head, what the hell is our best 17?!!
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| Certainly didn't miss Gigot. I though he was a good signing but I didn't realise he is a leaky hole in defence
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"All fans can ask for. Nothing was left out there. Walker stepped up, Wood is a beast, hitting well above his size, and as has been said LMS went straight through where he would've been had he not gone off. Hampshire kicked well.
Saints had to be off their game for Trinity to have a sniff and ti be fair the intensity of the defence in the first 25 minutes probably contributed to that.
Glad they stuck at it in the second, particularly when Saints started pulling away, and Ashurst, who looked something like his old self, was unfortunate to not get over the first time.
My only complaint is that our defensive line after that period in the first half seemed to stand back way too much allowing Saints the field position to get back into the game.'"
Thought Walker looked much more comfortable and confident tonight and didn't put a foot wrong but didn't see much of Max as Rocky was running the show.
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| Effort first class can't ask for more than that - tackle well, run hard, play to your strengths, you'll always have a chance. What gets me is, against Wigan twice and St Helens we've matched them and had a pretty good game plan serving up 3 great performances with a team missing quite a few regulars. In other games against 'lesser' opposition we've looked clueless, leaking tries and generally looked poor. If we keep this level of effort up we will surely get a win or two soon but credit where credit's due, well done for tonight.
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| Quote ="Emley Cat"Effort first class can't ask for more than that - tackle well, run hard, play to your strengths, you'll always have a chance. What gets me is, against Wigan twice and St Helens we've matched them and had a pretty good game plan serving up 3 great performances with a team missing quite a few regulars. In other games against 'lesser' opposition we've looked clueless, leaking tries and generally looked poor. If we keep this level of effort up we will surely get a win or two soon but credit where credit's due, well done for tonight.'"
Then it's an attitude thing then is it not??
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"So what does that performance tell you where the problems are, with the coaches or the players?? Last week good prep, same 17 picked from the week before and a crap performance, this week our so called better players ruled out, lot of disruption, yet we play like that?! I've said on here before that Chester has too many options and it's messing with his head, what the hell is our best 17?!!'"
Before we get too carried away with the better attitude and increased effort!
We fell away in the last 12 minutes of the 1st half and again in the last 15 minutes of the 2nd, that suggests a lack of fitness especially in the 1st where we had more ball and made less tackles.
If we had better structures and attacking shape to go along with the effort we just might start winning the tight games by scoring when we’re on top. We’ve put in the odd performance like this during the restarted season most notably against Wigan twice, let’s hope we can back it up next game!
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"So what changes would you make next week'"
Difficult one that but bjb on wing tupou in centre def startes but after that hard to choose others
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Before we get too carried away with the better attitude and increased effort!
We fell away in the last 12 minutes of the 1st half and again in the last 15 minutes of the 2nd, that suggests a lack of fitness especially in the 1st where we had more ball and made less tackles.
If we had better structures and attacking shape to go along with the effort we just might start winning the tight games by scoring when we’re on top. We’ve put in the odd performance like this during the restarted season most notably against Wigan twice, let’s hope we can back it up next game!'"
Absolutely, all I wanted was the actual players who took to the field to perform to a higher standard than they had been showing, and not keep making excuses which were ready made. Attitude and effort should be a given anyway, but tonight's performance makes things even more frustrating really, there is and has been more than enough talent in this squad to have won at least 3 or 4 games since the re-start.
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| I have come on here and had a go at the coach but was gutted for him to night Rocky was making a lot of ground with the kicks .J Wood got man of match for is tackling .Why as Bachelor been out so long .Will wait and see what happens next week but our best performance for a long time
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"Exactly, a great show without Miller, Arona, BJB, Pitts, Tupou, Gigot etc, etc, add to that all the covid problems we keep hearing about, so it seems we have a decent SQUAD of players after all???'"
Think there's a reasonable consensus on here that we have a decent enough squad, the issue is how well are they being coached
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| Quote ="Alchemist1"Difficult one that but bjb on wing tupou in centre def startes but after that hard to choose others'"
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| I'm so proud of them tonight. Also am stuffed with humble pie for my criticism and asking for Chester's sacking for the first time last week. I just wanted to see us play some decent rugby league and we've more than done that tonight. Don't let that defeat knock you lads.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Think there's a reasonable consensus on here that we have a decent enough squad, the issue is how well are they being coached'"
I had plenty to say about coaching myself lately, so I'm not going to be a hypocrite, but come on fella, that wasn't a badly coached side tonight.
I was also thinking...how come we've played Wigan twice, we've got at Helens twice, Leeds twice, London twice.? Not played Hull kr yet. Or Salford. What a bloody fixture list.
Not a thing to criticise tonight. Pity we coughed up a set restart on walmsly. It ultimately cost us the match. But there we are. That was what I pay my season ticket money for and I don't think it's fair to be criticising coaching after that
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Before we get too carried away with the better attitude and increased effort!
We fell away in the last 12 minutes of the 1st half and again in the last 15 minutes of the 2nd, that suggests a lack of fitness especially in the 1st where we had more ball and made less tackles.
If we had better structures and attacking shape to go along with the effort we just might start winning the tight games by scoring when we’re on top. We’ve put in the odd performance like this during the restarted season most notably against Wigan twice, let’s hope we can back it up next game!'"
Well said it was alot better today commitment esp and it was good to watch knowing we where always in it but lets not get carried away we still had a strong team out held a good lead against a saints team thst was probs 50% below par and we still lost we have had other games like that (hull wigan)and followed it up with garbage again next week is important for me lets plsy like that 2 weekon trot and hopefully stop this run of defeats
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| Great effort tonight. Chester should put same team out next week, apart from Fafita coz he still doesnt look interested. Hampshire and Tanganoa on fire tonight and should be there. Some of senior players not in tonight should need to earn their spot. Bailey was blinding, but thought Jowitt was outclassed.
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| Quote ="SPBrover"Great effort tonight. Chester should put same team out next week, apart from Fafita coz he still doesnt look interested. Hampshire and Tanganoa on fire tonight and should be there. Some of senior players not in tonight should need to earn their spot. Bailey was blinding, but thought Jowitt was outclassed.'"
You must have been watching a different match to me. Fifita had his best match since restart.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Before we get too carried away with the better attitude and increased effort!
We fell away in the last 12 minutes of the 1st half and again in the last 15 minutes of the 2nd, that suggests a lack of fitness especially in the 1st where we had more ball and made less tackles.
If we had better structures and attacking shape to go along with the effort we just might start winning the tight games by scoring when we’re on top. We’ve put in the odd performance like this during the restarted season most notably against Wigan twice, let’s hope we can back it up next game!'"
Look
According to sky, with a combination of covid and injury we fielded the 17 we had more or less. This is bloody hard. They deserve 100% praise for that tonight and nothing else
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Sorry pretty clueless near there line also lynne has got concrete in his boots absolute rubbish josh wood was first class but we despairte for two quality half backs forwards were better'"
Give it a rest. I'll criticise if it's deserved but that's tosh. Lynne was chased down by o e of the fastest players in the game. Hampshire was brilliant.
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| No wasnt watching a different game! Fifita not interested, didnt bend his back. We need forwards who want to win. As I say, Hamshire was excellent and should be in team unlike last few weeks. Him, Lynne, Wood, Tanganoa and Bailey played with heart
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Sorry pretty clueless near there line also lynne has got concrete in his boots absolute rubbish josh wood was first class but we despairte for two quality half backs forwards were better'"
Wow. Just wow.
I thought Lyne had one of the best games I've seen him have in ages.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Wow. Just wow.
I thought Lyne had one of the best games I've seen him have in ages.'"
Agreed. Ran well and knew when to pass/move the ball along. Few errors but nothing that other players don't do.
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| Quote ="SPBrover"No wasnt watching a different game! Fifita not interested, didnt bend his back. We need forwards who want to win. As I say, Hamshire was excellent and should be in team unlike last few weeks. Him, Lynne, Wood, Tanganoa and Bailey played with heart'"
Garbage. Not having it. I've given him some stick but tonight, first gamein ages, he got stuck in and took defenders with him
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| Quote ="PopTart"Wow. Just wow.
I thought Lyne had one of the best games I've seen him have in ages.'"
I agree. I think some people just want to moan. I've been pd off and criticised when I thought it warranted but nobody deserves any stick tonight
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| I have always said that the way Lyne plays the ball would cost us not so much dropping it but he seldom faces straight on. With regards Fifita he plays the ball quicker than the majority of our team and why is he now public enemy number one is it because of a rumour regarding Catalan. He is still contracted to us and I saw nothing tonight to say he wasn’t trying.
I would ask what was wrong with our kicking game in the first half because Chester saw something wrong with it.
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