And some on here make out I'm the troll! Lol

I won't say nobody, as it's possible someone does know MC and Chester outside of rugby but not many of the people posting know anymore than the next man on MC/Chesters relationship or friendship.

Getting pretty bored of this being the only thing discussed on here... across 98 topics.

Have to agree but it suits their viewpoint I suppose.

I guess also it's because he was slow to show Agar and Smith the door.

Didn't Smith resign?

Yes, I believe that's been made quite clear by another poster, but most on here thought he should have got the push before he had a chance to. Funny thing is I suspect he's the one coach MC would have liked to have sacked, Smith though has been around and beat him to the punch.

May I suggest you watch some interviews with MC & Terry Crook on Trin TV, then you may get an insight as to what sort of relationship they have.

Aside from that, from a purely analytical, professional & emotionless viewpoint, how can you justify to continue to employ a coach of a team who have won 5 games out of the last 31 is it now???

These threads have been running for days but unless we were at the match, we have only now had the chance to watch the game on Trinity TV.
I have seen it today and I don't recognise the accusations of a team of non triers and poor attitude. Most were working their socks off but as ever there is a complete lack of direction and authority on the pitch.
How can you hope to win or even compete against a side that contains the best 4 halfbacks on the field, Maloney, Tompkins, Drinkwater & Langi and they are constantly interchanging. They had the best two fullbacks on the field in Tompkins and Mead, the best hooker in McIlorum, an outstanding centre in Folau and the best kickers in Drinkwater, Tompkins & Maloney.
We employ two halfbacks who both play without structure and cannot manage a game then wonder why our forwards don't run into holes and our backs never get a pass. Yes, Tupou scored off an nice Miller kick, but in 30 minutes of almost complete domination we never really threatened the Catalans line and barely asked a question of their defence.
Chester has been badly let down by Gigot and Walker who are showing nothing other than Championship form at best.
Westerman was our most dangerous player, constantly looking to offload without there ever being a halfback in support.
Catalans scored 4 tries from sublime passes; we shipped the ball across the line and ran our wingers into touch.
Where Chester has failed is in believing that Miller might develop into a game manager (he never will) not bringing in a game manager when available (Drinkwater etc) and not sticking with experiments such as Jowett at 6 when the only think to be taken from this season is player development.

Your last paragraph sums things up well enough.
Have we made best use of the players that we have and have any players improved individually or as part of the team over the past 2 seasons.
Catalan are a very good side and will finish top 4/5 this year, as well as being in the cup final.
However, since Finn left, we have gone from a top 5/6 side to relegation escapologists and were it not for Toronto bailing out, we would be in one hell of a relegation battle, with them and KR.
I do agree that our more recent signings, apart from Kelpi, have been Championship standard and they dont seem good enough to improve the side, they are just "extra" bodies.
Maybe that is where we're at but, we all hoped that we were better than that.

I have been accused by the angler that after years supporting coaching and playing the game I don't know owt about it so I might as well throw this in the ring miller isn't rated by many on here if a coach can't do anything with this lad then there I something wrong without a doubt him and Hampshire should be half back a no brained I've not been impressed with jowitt in the past but his performances of late have been good him at full back and the other two in the Half's should be a coached dream but then what do I know fisherman's friend

I for one don’t go along with the accusations of not trying or poor attitude, I’ve always stated that the whole team looks a complete shambles a team that is in need of knowledge, guidance and above all organisation from the first minute. We are so easy to defend against the whole structure and game plan need ripping up and starting afresh. If the top management at the club can’t see that fundamentally things need to change then what hope do we have. So we keep going on about halfbacks in Drinkwater and Maloney the same two who have been absolutely none existent in the last few games both with no pace and both behind a beaten pack. The same Drinkwater who took Leigh down and the same Drinkwater who survived with hull kr on the final day. You can talk about Drinkwater, Williams, green but they will do nothing in a side like ours it’s just so predictable and slow. We need to identify what we need and at least try and go get it, a large personal change in the pack for a start this as been going on quite a while the forwards can’t even achieve parity and don’t make ground or breaks. Let’s look at last season and you can look at the videos we scored long range tries and made long breaks, toupo, tj, rocky helped to bail us out and let’s take the Leeds game at home I don’t think we hardly got in their half for 60 minutes. This is the reason why it couldn’t and didn’t work with brough we could not get him in to the areas so he could put his game into play, remember we scraped into 5th and he was the final piece of the jigsaw. So let’s move on to rocky and miller at halves both are runners so let them run but put a plan in place to kick on 4 or chip over or go long on 3 and take the pressure off, runners that don’t run. Rocky would go back to one for me he’s got the pace no one else as and if they work a plan out could make breaks. Miller and jowitt at half with Kyle wood maybe kicking out of dummy half. Kyle wood is the best half at the club imo I’ve seen him since he was a kid so maybe play him with miller but whoever plays there will be defunct behind a beaten pack.
Chester needs to take a long look at things and realise that if it’s not working then change it and change it again not just carry on the same way it’s just ridiculous. Get them the fittest team in the league, get a plan that plays to our strengths and work tirelessly on defence and a determination of over my dead body.

I've just watched the highlights too and the tackling was woeful knife through butter comes to mind if you except that fsw you'll accept owt lad

I've just watched it.........what a load of pants we have become, for the supposed quality of player we have now, what they are serving up isn't even amateurish, we're not even that good! Half of the time the players don't even know where to be, they are all over the place, completely directionless. Our actual play with ball in hand is possibly the worst I've witnessed in all my time of watching us, i am totally p****d off at how bad we have become, utter s***e.

2 good posts FSW & Mopsey - a lot of good common sense in both.

"Chester needs to take a long look at things and realise that if it’s not working then change it and change it again not just carry on the same way it’s just ridiculous. Get them the fittest team in the league, get a plan that plays to our strengths and work tirelessly on defence and a determination of over my dead body."

That's exactly what Danny Ward & Jamie Langley did with London last year and although they were ultimately relegated it was skin of the teeth stuff with the most wins of any relegated side in the SL era - we'd settle for the same number of wins this year for sure....even any win would do for now.

It's also what previous coaches did with us...eg JK after our last administration when players were sold off cheap to Saints & Shudds...and we did a hell of a lot better then than now

Carter's message on the recent interview sums this up perfectly, we need to give the club some leeway at this time. A number of people on here are way too caught up on sacking Chester but there is literally nothing that he or Michael can do when almost half of your matchday squad is stood down the day before a match!

Exactly, I mean its not as if every other club is going through the same pandemic is it?

What makes me laugh in the Evening Post article that was published today - Chester talks about getting us ready for next season and starting to play some of the younger players then in the next breath talks about Innes Senior been back for next week - Does he mean getting Hudds ready for next season? Are we going to be there feeder side when we drop down to the championship?

I never said other clubs don't deserve the same. We play the season out to ensure we receive the Sky money, after that we move on and pick up where we were pre-covid.

Full Squad, new assistant and a few months to get things running smoothly.

Other teams do have the same problem. And the teams who have the problem generally get beaten, just like us.

Quote ="TheDreadnought"Carter's message on the recent interview sums this up perfectly, we need to give the club some leeway at this time. A number of people on here are way too caught up on sacking Chester but there is literally nothing that he or Michael can do when almost half of your matchday squad is stood down the day before a match!'" Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/

Quote ="TheDreadnought"Carter's message on the recent interview sums this up perfectly, we need to give the club some leeway at this time. A number of people on here are way too caught up on sacking Chester but there is literally nothing that he or Michael can do when almost half of your matchday squad is stood down the day before a match!'" Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/

Quote ="FIL"Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/'" I've just listened to that FIL, and despite all the comments made on here, I think under the present circumstances, I'm prepared to cut both CC and MC some slack. I honestly don't think now is the time to get rid of CC (even if we could afford to!) and as for MC ditching the club, I just see a man who is committed to the cause. This season is write a off. This year is a write off for many things other than rugby ,it's unprecedented but it's real, and eventually we'll get through it. I hurt as much as anybody when we lose the way we have been doing but what we really don't is how many of the players on the pitch should be playing at all? I'll buy my season ticket for next year and I look forward to next season and better times.

Quote ="FIL"Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/'" I've just listened to that FIL, and despite all the comments made on here, I think under the present circumstances, I'm prepared to cut both CC and MC some slack. I honestly don't think now is the time to get rid of CC (even if we could afford to!) and as for MC ditching the club, I just see a man who is committed to the cause. This season is write a off. This year is a write off for many things other than rugby ,it's unprecedented but it's real, and eventually we'll get through it. I hurt as much as anybody when we lose the way we have been doing but what we really don't is how many of the players on the pitch should be playing at all? I'll buy my season ticket for next year and I look forward to next season and better times.

Absolutely

What about the games before the lockdown what’s the excuse for those performances. It is clearly an attempt to circle the wagons around his friend Chester blaming those supporters who are not willing to go along with the mediocrity of the last 12 months. They want our money but not our opinions unless they are the same as the club’s. What do we know about rugby despite many of us supporting Wakefield for more years than we like to remember.
I think we know an underperforming team with no game plan or fitness when we see them, at least give us some credit.

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I get it SP, I'm as bewildered as you are about some of our play, our lack of fitness and game plan - but yet the signings, until recently seemed sound, and I was really hoping for better things this season- BUT- things have gone pear shaped. We're struggling, no doubt about it .blame what you want, bad coaching, lack of fitness, bad selection and poor player attitude. I've seen many coaches at Wakefield in my 60 plus years and some bring success, but sadly most don't. I think it's a mixed bag of causes . MC could sack CC if you think that will make a difference personally I think there's a lot more to it., for now anyway.

All of those things you've highlighted are the responsibility of the coach though, and so far, Chester has shown he has no understanding of how to rectify the situation he has got himself into.

Yet the "We" that Scarlet refers to as the fans who know better because we have watched for ages actually all have different solutions so 'clearly' it isn't that simple.

I'd also say if watching Wakefield over the past 40 odd years makes me an expert, I should also be a top criminal investigator, be able to do some pretty neat surgery, understand how Warp speed works and understand how to chat up pretty women just by saying 'How You doin' ".
My life just got a lot better realising that. Thanks.

We agree on that much. The level of alleged expertise on this forum is quite staggering. They remind me of Piers Morgan who becomes an expert on everything simply by casting his gave upon it.

You forgot to mention your new found ability to cope with the pandemic, another subject to which this forum seems to have unlimited knowledge of.

Thus I proclaim you Dr Poptart.