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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Brilliant, something positive, My sincere thanks to go MC, something had to change for next s eason, my only wish now is a top grade fitness guy with a mandate to get them fit for a full 80 mins @ the speed of saints & Wigan etc, I am very happy with the players we have, they have a chance to learn & be more professional , our players desire should go up - fully.'"
Who are you blaming for the players perceived lack of fitness, is it the players unprofessionalism or the lack of technique and application of the fitness coach?, one thing they both have in common is they are directly under the influence of the head coach, if it is the fitness coach that isn't up to it then surely the fault lies with the coach and must take responsibility for not replacing him.
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| Quick question for BLM who knows what’s what. Does Willie still live near you, on the street that sounds like a Tree? I used to see him a lot around here, when he left Trinity to join Leeds, not seen him for awhile now.
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| Remember talking to Willy on the training ground whilst taking a break when he played for us. His little lad was with him and I asked him if this was the next generation of player, he said nah, heas going to be a golfer.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Who are you blaming for the players perceived lack of fitness, is it the players unprofessionalism or the lack of technique and application of the fitness coach?, one thing they both have in common is they are directly under the influence of the head coach, if it is the fitness coach that isn't up to it then surely the fault lies with the coach and must take responsibility for not replacing him.'"
How do you tell the difference between losing a game through lack of fitness or being beaten by a better team on the day?
To me...if you are right in a game up until the last quarter and then the other team gets well on top and open up a 3-4 score lead then I’d put that down to fitness.
There will always be points in games where players ‘appear’ to look tired if the opposition get repeat set after repeat set. A perfect example of that for me was the recent Cas/Salford game where Cas were absolutely out on their feet 10-15 minutes in...players with hands on knees, taking 2-3 tackles to get back on side and they went 18-0 behind. They showed great character to come back and win that game.
We’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had bad spells and leaked quick points but is that down to fitness? At Warrington we went toe to toe early and after about 20 minutes we were just 6-0 behind. Westerman and Arona went off and in the 20-25 minutes they were both off we’d gone from 6-0 to 24-0 down...fresh players had come on so was it fitness?
Most games we seem to finish pretty well so to me I wouldn’t be blaming fitness. Even if a few look to be carrying an extra few pounds I wouldn’t criticise them either because these are totally different circumstances to normal. They did their usual pre season and 4-5 games in would have been getting their match fitness and all of a sudden we have a 5-6 month break and come back without a pre season and to a game with different rules making it quicker. To call out any player as unprofessional for not being 100% spot on straight away is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion...there will always be players who need to play to gain match fitness...
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| Sorry the fitness must be down to the conditioner.The one we have now was there when Agar was in charge.Said before the coach who saved us from dropping out of S L first job was to bring in is own conditioner as he said the players were not fit .Hope it's time for a change or we will still be struggling with fitness
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| Great to see him back and hopefully will be CC's successor whenever the time comes.
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| Quote ="Oddshapeball"Remember talking to Willy on the training ground whilst taking a break when he played for us. His little lad was with him and I asked him if this was the next generation of player, he said nah, heas going to be a golfer.'"
I'm sure his lad does play league but I don't know what level or who with.
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| Quote ="Yosemite Sam"I'm sure his lad does play league but I don't know what level or who with.'"
Coby is or was with Huddersfield , Willy junior played at Shaw X then went to Thornhill but taking time out from RL at the moment. Both lovely polite young men and are a credit to Will.
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| awesome news welcome back -
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| It’s strange it is not in the Monday trade press which suggests a rapid decision or announced earlier than the club planned. I suppose it might actually be a sign that the club is beginning to realise something needed to change or it is a way to protect Chester by replacing others in the staff.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s strange it is not in the Monday trade press which suggests a rapid decision or announced earlier than the club planned. I suppose it might actually be a sign that the club is beginning to realise something needed to change or it is a way to protect Chester by replacing others in the staff.'"
You are right. There must be a negative somewhere. Thanks for searching.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s strange it is not in the Monday trade press which suggests a rapid decision or announced earlier than the club planned. I suppose it might actually be a sign that the club is beginning to realise something needed to change or it is a way to protect Chester by replacing others in the staff.'"
Jeez, are you sure you support Trinity
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| Top player, top bloke and hopefully can help get us back on the right track.
WE certainly need some fresh blood and Willie has spent a great deal of time working under Tony Smith, who is an excellent coach.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Top player, top bloke and hopefully can help get us back on the right track.
WE certainly need some fresh blood and Willie has spent a great deal of time working under Tony Smith, who is an excellent coach.'"
I certainly agree that we need some fresh blood but how much impact hes going to have as an a assistant is questionable, at the end of the day chester is the boss, the head coach and he decides how we are going to play, I wouldn't think hes going to come in and take over and push chester out of the door or be allowed to
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| We can always hope .If not we can hope he listen
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s strange it is not in the Monday trade press which suggests a rapid decision or announced earlier than the club planned. I suppose it might actually be a sign that the club is beginning to realise something needed to change or it is a way to protect Chester by replacing others in the staff.'"
You didn't manage to check the BBC last week then?
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| I’m not sure how much impact he’ll have because we’ve had 2 new assistants during Chester’s time who’ve come from outside the club and they had mixed influence.
John Kear had a very positive impact on team performances particularly defence.
Micheal Monaghan seemed to have a strained relationship with Chester and had very little impact as a result.
Either way both left after a shorter period than anticipated!
Let’s hope Willie can impose his ideas on Chester and the team and make us better.
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| If nothing else we have the next coach if Chester decides to move on. I dont know if Poching has aspirations of being a head coach but he's certainly done his time as an assistant.
Great player, top bloke, hopefully he will have the respect of the current lot.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s strange it is not in the Monday trade press which suggests a rapid decision or announced earlier than the club planned. I suppose it might actually be a sign that the club is beginning to realise something needed to change or it is a way to protect Chester by replacing others in the staff.'"
Get a grip FFS.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Great player, top bloke, hopefully he will have the respect of the current lot.'"
If the players can't knuckle down and play for Willie Poching there's no hope for them.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I’m not sure how much impact he’ll have because we’ve had 2 new assistants during Chester’s time who’ve come from outside the club and they had mixed influence.
John Kear had a very positive impact on team performances particularly defence.
Micheal Monaghan seemed to have a strained relationship with Chester and had very little impact as a result.
Either way both left after a shorter period than anticipated!
Let’s hope Willie can impose his ideas on Chester and the team and make us better.'"
Let’s hope it works out better for them the last time they worked together. Chester got sacked and Hull KR ended up getting relegated!
Met Willie several times and he’s a top bloke, he’ll be good to have around the place. Hopefully it will give everyone a lift.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Let’s hope it works out better for them the last time they worked together. Chester got sacked and Hull KR ended up getting relegated!
Met Willie several times and he’s a top bloke, he’ll be good to have around the place. Hopefully it will give everyone a lift.'"
That's just what I was thinking if he was there when Chester took HKR into the Championship It's a bit worrying
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| To be fair he left after 3 games the season they were relegated and was replaced by James Webster...
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| Quote ="Little willy"That's just what I was thinking if he was there when Chester took HKR into the Championship It's a bit worrying'"
So actually what happened was Hull KR finished higher in the league than us every year Chester was coach, and went to Wembley, and the year he came to us they were relegated and we made the playoffs.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I’m not sure how much impact he’ll have because we’ve had 2 new assistants during Chester’s time who’ve come from outside the club and they had mixed influence.
John Kear had a very positive impact on team performances particularly defence.
Micheal Monaghan seemed to have a strained relationship with Chester and had very little impact as a result.
Either way both left after a shorter period than anticipated!
Let’s hope Willie can impose his ideas on Chester and the team and make us better.'"
I heard very good things about Monaghan`s time with us.
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