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| My point being, BG, that Dreadnought was incorrectly assuming that Wilzay was on his own in what he said and believed. My response was purely and simply to state that that wasn't the case. Simples!!
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Looking at what is going on around the country at the moment it looks like only the police are staying indoors. Bloody anarchy.'"
Out of order as an ex cop of 30+ years I am offended by your comments when I see my former colleagues holding the line trying to manage extremely difficult circumstances something I suspect you have not done and secondly I bet you have no idea about police tactics for securing and preserving evidence at such events. We go from happy clapping the NHS and emergency services on Thursday to a minority attacking them at the weekend. I am pretty sure many will be brought to Justice but there will be a lack of reporting as usual. As for that excuse of a cop in America throw away the key yes there are bad pennies in the job the 99% of Police officers serve the public with integrity and professionalism rant over!
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| I'm just waiting 5 days for the R number to explode, covidiots
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| Quote ="djcool"I'm just waiting 5 days for the R number to explode, covidiots'"
I’ve been waiting since March for the Government to admit they’ve f’ed up #ToryLiesCostLives
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Out of order as an ex cop of 30+ years I am offended by your comments when I see my former colleagues holding the line trying to manage extremely difficult circumstances something I suspect you have not done and secondly I bet you have no idea about police tactics for securing and preserving evidence at such events. We go from happy clapping the NHS and emergency services on Thursday to a minority attacking them at the weekend. I am pretty sure many will be brought to Justice but there will be a lack of reporting as usual. As for that excuse of a cop in America throw away the key yes there are bad pennies in the job the 99% of Police officers serve the public with integrity and professionalism rant over!'"
I find it unbelievable that the dregs of humanity currently vandalising the City of London (and Bristol now) appear to have been given a free rein by those in charge. Did you see the guy setting fire to the Union Flag draped on the Cenataph or the others pushing cycles into the Police Horses.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I find it unbelievable that the dregs of humanity currently vandalising the City of London (and Bristol now) appear to have been given a free rein by those in charge. Did you see the guy setting fire to the Union Flag draped on the Cenataph or the others pushing cycles into the Police Horses.'"
Yes I did and I refer to my previous you obviously have a thing about it 1000 cops versus 10,000 protesters if they arrest per se they diminish resources and lose control by other tactics they take out the key ones or where faced with no alternative, what happens in the background and out of eye sight is a different matter and that is what will come to bear in the coming days and weeks and that was my point about the media, I am not going to get drawn out about public order tactics but I would I would be interested in what your perceived solution would be to deal with such issues then I maybe able to to give you some counter debate or corroboration on how you would deal with such matters
Oh and before I joined the police I served in the Merchant Navy for over 8 years working in conflict zones and post police the UN again in conflict zones so to say I am appalled by the setting fire of the Union Flag and the idiot that thought swinging on the red duster at the cenotaph was appropriate I look forward to the media reporting when their doors get stoved in.
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| Well luckily we’ve now got Tommy Robinson trying to whip up “protesters” to go and “protest” the protesters who are protesting against racism.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Yes I did and I refer to my previous you obviously have a thing about it 1000 cops versus 10,000 protesters if they arrest per se they diminish resources and lose control by other tactics they take out the key ones or where faced with no alternative, what happens in the background and out of eye sight is a different matter and that is what will come to bear in the coming days and weeks and that was my point about the media, I am not going to get drawn out about public order tactics but I would I would be interested in what your perceived solution would be to deal with such issues then I maybe able to to give you some counter debate or corroboration on how you would deal with such matters
Oh and before I joined the police I served in the Merchant Navy for over 8 years working in conflict zones and post police the UN again in conflict zones so to say I am appalled by the setting fire of the Union Flag and the idiot that thought swinging on the red duster at the cenotaph was appropriate I look forward to the media reporting when their doors get stoved in.'"
The police had no problems with mounted police charging and thousands of riot police available To prevent protests by the miners, police were able to setup roadblocks in the early hours of the morning To prevent miners Traveling to sites to make a protest, the police had no problems making false statements to the courts, to get innocent miners convicted. The police can control movement of people whenever they need to. There is an obvious discrimination going on here.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’ve been waiting since March for the Government to admit they’ve f’ed up #ToryLiesCostLives'"
Perhaps rather than trying to score political points as usual, you point your fingers at all the bell-ends who have been protesting on the streets and will inevitably cause the R rate to increase and then the number of deaths.
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| Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
So what next ? Trinity sponsored “track and trace” ? Trinity sponsored Covid19 vaccines?
I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Perhaps rather than trying to score political points as usual, you point your fingers at all the bell-ends who have been protesting on the streets and will inevitably cause the R rate to increase and then the number of deaths.'"
I’d rather point my fingers at the twonks who took to the streets for VE Day and flocked to the beaches for a family day out.
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| The fact of the matter is that a high ranking Government Official broke his own rules so how can you expect people to follow that?
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’d rather point my fingers at the twonks who took to the streets for VE Day and flocked to the beaches for a family day out.'"
In that case your argument in your previous post doesn't really stand up. Perhaps you should aim your disdain at the above.
You point the finger at those that have ignored the social distancing guidelines, but were in earlier posts trying to score political points.
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| Quote ="Willzay"The fact of the matter is that a high ranking Government Official broke his own rules so how can you expect people to follow that?'"
Im sure that the rules were broken long before that was released. Also, it wasnt just him was it?
As you like to make things political, there were people from all areas of the political spectrum that had broken the rule - including one that went to a funeral.
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| Quote ="Miro"Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
So what next ? Trinity sponsored “track and trace” ? Trinity sponsored Covid19 vaccines?
I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"'"
Quite dismayed by this appalling post.
What about the 40,000 who have lost their lives and their families and friends?
I'm sure they'd like to discuss your "fake" pandemic.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"The police had no problems with mounted police charging and thousands of riot police available To prevent protests by the miners, police were able to setup roadblocks in the early hours of the morning To prevent miners Travelling to sites to make a protest, the police had no problems making false statements to the courts, to get innocent miners convicted. The police can control movement of people whenever they need to. There is an obvious discrimination going on here.'"
If you want to quote 1980's legislation crack on, had the law not changed that is what would have happened but the law has changed for the better because of incidents you describe also including other high profile inquiries that have occurred but they are all pretty well known leading to Police and judicial reform but hey ho you stick to the 80s.
Oh and just to contextualise policing during the miners strike involved mutual aid hence the police numbers the local protests do not appear to have involved mutual aid so have been policed locally if it carries on then this will change.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I find it unbelievable that the dregs of humanity currently vandalising the City of London (and Bristol now) appear to have been given a free rein by those in charge. Did you see the guy setting fire to the Union Flag draped on the Cenataph or the others pushing cycles into the Police Horses.'"
This for me, as an UK Veteran, I am disgusted that the cenotaph had been defaced by graffiti
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| Political point scoring!
It’s the Tories who are in office and it’s the Tories who should be setting an example for the general public to follow - this isn’t point scoring, this is a fact!
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| Quote ="Miro"Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
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I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"'"
Wow, have you burnt down any 5g masts recently too?
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| Quote ="Willzay"The fact of the matter is that a high ranking Government Official broke his own rules so how can you expect people to follow that?'"
Two wrongs don't make a right, identify the fault and act accordingly to make sure the same mistake isn't made.
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| Quote ="Miro"Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
So what next ? Trinity sponsored “track and trace” ? Trinity sponsored Covid19 vaccines?
I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"'"
I see it as, our club trying to get a little money to help with survival while helping to keep their supporters safe
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"In that case your argument in your previous post doesn't really stand up. Perhaps you should aim your disdain at the above.
You point the finger at those that have ignored the social distancing guidelines, but were in earlier posts trying to score political points.'"
You were quick to blame the protesters for a potential second spike; I was merely pointing out that there have been large amounts of people flouting the rules beforehand. In the end, the Government have never taken lockdown seriously - just how look at how quick they went from “stay at home, protect the NHS” to “stay alert, control the virus”.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Two wrongs don't make a right, [uidentify the fault and act accordingly to[/u make sure the same mistake isn't made.'"
That’s the thing - they didn’t. They’re quick to condemn the general public but when it’s one of their own....
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| Quote ="Miro"Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
So what next ? Trinity sponsored “track and trace” ? Trinity sponsored Covid19 vaccines?
I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"'"
Fake!!!
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| Quote ="Miro"Absolutely dismayed that Trinity are cashing in on this fake pandemic. It's quite obvious the 6 companies that own most of the worlds media are enacting a global ritual to recondition the population into a fear state, paving the way for a medical tyranny in which your every move will be recorded, analysed and reacted to, your submission required, and your rights surrendered...
the stuff of sci-fi nightmares
So what next ? Trinity sponsored “track and trace” ? Trinity sponsored Covid19 vaccines?
I imagine the reuse of masks, and touching and spit soon make the mask useless at best. But it is unreal to walk on the street and see masks, an acceptance by society to say, "I recognize you as a threat"'"
Please free to PM me so I can arrange for you tell my wife it's fake after losing her father disgraceful post
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