So you know for sure it's black and white, do you know that both players were fully fit or are you guessing, don't you think that Chester would have loved to have played them both if possible.

On another side note don't you think that given the choice where to play him, that Chester wouldn't play him in the second row when available to do so.

I doubt what ever Chester said to them at half time, it wouldn't be either rocks or diamonds, clearly whatever it was they didn't take any notice, one other thing, don't think for one minute that you've cornered the market in frustration, because you certainly haven't, we're all the same it's just some people are more patient than others, now this is the time to tell me your entitled to your opinion, well guess what, so am I and if you haven't guessed by now mine differs to yours.

Why even bother replying if that's what you're going to put.

I agree we didn't look very fit, we had this problem a few years ago where we could only play for 40 minutes a game.

I didn't have too much of a problem with our goal line defence against Castleford, it would be interesting to see how many sets they had on our line. I think the scoreline could've been a lot worse.

The Rocky jaw incident really didn't help us going forward, I think Milky did fairly well considering the amount of stick he cops on here. Does anyone know how Rocky's jaw is?

I've deliberately put up bojo's quote because clearly you haven't grasped it, for no apparent reason your criticising me in one breath and then disagreeing with his post, you couldn't make it up

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Btw I saw you last Friday afternoon outside of the ridings near Greggs selling the big issue, I see your still wearing that hideous 70's style silver shell suit

Criticising you for the quality of your response, why can't I then throw in my 2 pence on what Boj wrote?

Busy shift fella but I thought I saw your cap bobbing up and down behind the crowd.

I've not had chance to watch the game yet. Only listened on the radio. But...
1st half lead, probably deserved.
2nd half man-down reshuffle missing a centre (again) half-back playing with a broken jaw. Down to 12 men for half of the 40 minutes.
We do seem a little mentally brittle and lacking in leadership, but I don't think it's time to hit the panic button just yet.
Let's get some props back and see what happens.

Does anyone know who we are expecting back this week?

David Fifita
Tinirau Arona
Chris Green
George King - Played in the reserves, how'd he go? (Anyone)

Think you can forget about Fifita and Arona for about 4 weeks

Following the tragic news about Joe Arundel and Rcoky, and those calling for the head of CC, has any other SL coach had to deal with injuries that have been sustained by Trinity players over the last year? . I don't think there's a coach in SL who could have done better!
OK he puzzles me with some selections but you have to feel for the bloke when he is constantly having to shuffle the team because of the injury situation.

Bloody hell that lad is cursed,

In answer to your question yes they have only the other week cas where naming 17 year old who where playing under 16s last year in there squad v wigan 3 week ago and beat wigan.not interested in the debste weather cc should stay or go but we cant harp on about injuries all the time

It's about time they came clean about Fifita's injury and tell us he's out indefinitely. It's looking quite obvious they're struggling to get to bottom of what's wrong with him, the operation doesn't appear to have done the job.

Regarding injuries overhaul, at what point do fingers get pointed at the fitness and conditioning coaches? The number of injuries over the last 2 years appears to be beyond a natural deviation to what we can expect. Frustrating is a mild way of putting it.

As per my previous post elsewhere, Arona said at the Warrington match that he was 3 weeks away, and I'm sure I read somewhere that Fifita was in contention for a place against Cas ??

Do you know something we don't ?

Good to know that all these defeats are down to injurys . So in that case all the penalty we are giving away . The slow passing of the ball .must be down to injurys as well

Don't worry Broughy and Atkins will be back soon to speed things up

David Fifita himself stated that it would be 2 weeks on last Wednesday's Rugby AM

Didn’t Fifita say on rugby am last week that his foot was fully recovered now and he was ready to go? Only thing wrong was short of match fitness?

And surely injuries do play a part..especially missing the go forward and experience of players like Fifita and Arona...it will be amazing how much quicker the plays will look when these two guys are in the middle and Tanginoa is freed to play on the edges again...these are the players who get us on the front foot and break up opposition defences...

I'm not talking about ONE game I'm talking about year long injuries to many players, some of them season ending.
No, you can't name another SL coach in the last year who has battled against injuries like CC has because there isn't one.
I for one am not 'harping on' about the situation using it as an excuse but let's be fair, when was the 17 you would like in the squad last named?

Cheers mate ...so they are both officially "fit" for the Hull match then, so after Friday's second half debacle against Cas, will Chessie risk putting either/both of them in against Salford ??

That is not the same issue as Chester has had to deal with at all. Yes they were missing a few players but fielded their first choice spine...Rankin, Trueman, Richardson and McShane...centres were their long standing captain and an NRL signing...their forwards included Watts, Millington, Smith, Moors, Holmes, Massey so there was no real area where they were struggling so wasn’t really an issue bringing a couple of young lads into that squad...if you look at the Wigan team that day they were missing plenty too...French and Powell for starters!

Last season we missed our entire left edge nearly all season and for large parts missed halfbacks, Fifita, Arona etc...at the start of this season we’ve been four props down to the extent we’ve had to play a back rower at prop and that’s severely affecting his game!

When we get all our big guns on the field we are a decent side...like all sides...the more injuries we get the tougher we’ll find it!

When we fire on all cylinders as we have seen we are a match for the best ,but keeping them all firing smoothly seems to allude us at times .Bradford should be despatched with ease but we all know that on the day we won’t know if the Morris minor or the Porsche will turn up .
Injury’s apart this has been our biggest problem over the recent seasons,Losing for me isn’t a problem it happens to the best ,it’s the manner of defeat that rankles me.All I hope for in every game is that the players on the field are as committed to the Trinity cause as much as I’ve been over the last 50 years.
A challenge cup final has eluded us for far too long, but again this year I’ll be hoping that this is our year, just hope the team have those same aspirations this time around, because I honestly believe we have a squad that can get there .The balls in their court .

Arona defo did say at the wire match he would be ready for the hull match

Dave said on rugby AM he was good to play just needed some match fitness

So you are right on both counts FIL

All teams have injuries cas had a fair few last year rugby is not a 13 man or even a 17 man game no more its a full squad of at least 30.we had more than a good team out to bt cas last week but all some go on about is injuries last i looked every game we played we always had the same amount of players starting the match as the other team last and this year.people are already blaming injuries this year when in fact we dont have that many out and its all been about the forwards been out but its not the forwarlds where we are losing games its out wide

What will be will be personally just think blaming ingries all the time is a cop out

Yes see all the posts re Dave and Green there is no guessing on my part
Secondly yes again
Chester didn’t want to change the team as reward for the wire win, so specifically no, Chester would not play them as he wanted to reward last weeks team



Chester stated in an interview that he sees Tanginoa as a prop
You can see that interview on social media and on Trin TV



I am one of the most patient guys you’ll ever meet
It’s a prerequisite of being a dad and a wakey fan lol

Lastly
We are either diamonds or rocks
Hull KR opener = one, if not the worst Wakey performances I’ve seen in sl
Wire = one of the best I’ve seen

Cas first half, diamonds and second half rocks

French played against Cas, made a break from inside His own half which we scampered back for


Moors played off the bench, first game in 9 months after a broken hip, played with no training and injections, did 1 15 minute stint and hasn't been in the squad since.

I was v pleased with the performance that night, the result was a bonus.

Have you seen a post from Chester saying both are fit, or are you just taking the word of posters on here where there is such a confliction of the truth where some posters say they're fit this week, some say they will be back for the Hull game, i don't know who to believe, but you've clearly made your mind up.

Don't need to see the interview, if Chester say's he sees him as a prop it's his decision to make irrespective of what we believe.

First of all congratulations on being a dad and a Wakey supporter, i too am also a dad and a Wakey supporter and at a guess I'm much older than you and believe me just as patient as you are if not more so by reading your post, so my frustration will probably trump yours, like I've already told you, you don't have that monopoly, let things develop it's less stressful we're only 3 games into the season.

I still doubt Chester would have told them to play like they did in the second half, did he give them poor instructions on what to do in the second half or could it be they didn't take in what he actually instructed them to do, you make up your own mind.