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| Personally I think Chessies best year for us all round was 2017.
Ironically, it was the same year that Kear came back to help out.
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| He's got to go it's over 12 month of abject performance, with no idea who the best key combinations are. If the coaching staff can't see what's going on on the pitch week in week out then they simply have to be removed. We are simply woeful in attack, it's basically tackling practice and any team in the league gets walk ins out wide. Miller is crap and wants stripping of the captaincy and dropping. Why max jowitt can't get in this team is as baffling as Chesters selections, Atkins on the wing, wow.
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| Ludicrous calling for him to go imo. We were flying last year when we last had a fit team. Club on our budget needs its big players on the pitch and we haven't been able to do that consistently. I dont know what some people on here expect Chester to do.
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"It's not after one game. The points might reset each year, but the losing mentality doesn't'"
You don’t sack a coach one game into the season, simple as that. Yes the fact that the same problems going back the best part of 18 months seem to remain is a major concern but he has to be given a chance to turn it around. If in another 6 or 7 games time the same problems persist then it may well be time to act, but until then he has the chance to prove people wrong. Over to Chester.
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| Wakefield head coach Chris Chester: "(I was) very disappointed in the effort of some individuals tonight. I thought we just got outmuscled.
"I was disappointed with the errors, 16 errors, you can't win any games playing like that.
"Guys were just probably trying too hard, guys just making stuff up.
"It looked like we were a group of players just thrown together. We need to be a lot better so I expect a big reaction next week."
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Demetriou or Wane'"
The same Wane who purposely set out to injure your players with his thuggish tactics and dreadful rugby? Aye I’m sure your brain dead posters would love that, not that he’d ever lower himself to your level however
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| Do not think all these injurys are down to bad look .The people who pland the close season should be ashamed .5 wins in 20 games does not make good reading ,when you can see all the same problems are there from last season
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| As fans you don't have to just blindly accept what goes on. The pre season games we were clueless and pathetic. We now have won 4 of the last 20. The dads army recruitment and loyalty to under performers is ridiculous. No kicking game, we look like schoolboys against men. Smell the coffee, in 12 months we've gone back 5 years and in danger of not just relegation but even existing.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Ludicrous calling for him to go imo. We were flying last year when we last had a fit team. Club on our budget needs its big players on the pitch and we haven't been able to do that consistently. I dont know what some people on here expect Chester to do.'"
I agree about us going ok last year with everyone fit (apart from the opener at London).
However, KR have brought in 20 players and yet, they looked to have a plan on how they were going to play and despite making errors themselves and conceding plenty of penalties, we were just awful.
Every time we tried to build some pressure, there would be yet another handling error.
Personally, I believe that, just like London last season, we believed that all we had to do was turn up and that the two points would be ours.
That side were not prepared mentally, KR on the other hand were.
Brough missing for a while will really test us as without him, we dont have a serious kicking game.
Looks like a long, long season ahead.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I agree about us going ok last year with everyone fit (apart from the opener at London).
However, KR have brought in 20 players and yet, they looked to have a plan on how they were going to play and despite making errors themselves and conceding plenty of penalties, we were just awful.
Every time we tried to build some pressure, there would be yet another handling error.
Personally, I believe that, just like London last season, we believed that all we had to do was turn up and that the two points would be ours.
That side were not prepared mentally, KR on the other hand were.
Brough missing for a while will really test us as without him, we dont have a serious kicking game.
Looks like a long, long season ahead.
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Yeah thats what I mean, I know it was pretty bad but I dont think we can read too much into it, impossible to get any kind of rhythm out of a team thats dropping the ball every 2 mins. We were in it until last 10 mins but just couldnt get anything to stick.
Not ideal but we wont have another game this year with so many handling errors.
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| Only some of us Kingross.
FWIW, I don’t mind the Wigan of more recent years on the whole.
A bit of young, local talent mixed in with a bit of aggression.
Maybe at times, we play, as a team, a bit soft.
Would do the club good, bringing in some of the old ticker to some players. Might be something we lack
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| Only just got back home
The longest drive of my life
I really can’t think of a match where we’ve played worse
The only thing I can think is that in the pre season training, Chester has instructed the team to practise knocking the ball on and giving penalties away
Had being looking forward to the match all month too
We have to do better
I believe we are much better than what I saw this eve
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| Quote ="FIL"Wakefield head coach Chris Chester: "
"It looked like we were a group of players just thrown together. ."'"
We've been that for about 4 years but relied on individual off the cuff brilliance to get results. Johnstone, Tupou, Fifita and even Hampshire aren't bailing you out at present.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"You don’t sack a coach one game into the season, simple as that. Yes the fact that the same problems going back the best part of 18 months seem to remain is a major concern but he has to be given a chance to turn it around. If in another 6 or 7 games time the same problems persist then it may well be time to act, but until then he has the chance to prove people wrong. Over to Chester.'"
He's had his chance to turn it around. He failed. We lost badly to the team everyone is tipping for relegation. If he doesn't go now, it'll be us who are relegated.
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| Frustrating following a loss and poor performance. Similar to last season really. But we got our act together to go 3rd and after London no one would have thought that. We're always going to have some knee jerk fans and some positive whatever fans. It's just in different people's makeup.
There'll be some bum kickings and changes for Catalan and we go again.
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| I got shot down when I was on about the signings we were making in close season ,and the coaching . Think last night proved my point .
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| Quote ="alegend"I got shot down when I was on about the signings we were making in close season ,and the coaching . Think last night proved my point .'"
People just debated with you, dont be such a snowflake.
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| I must say legend, I was scratching my head with some, and even some contract renewals.
Prepared to give them a chance in the red, white and blue, but yes, last night did prove a point.
I also thought that teams that finished around us in the league have done better recruitment in the off season than us.
Now, with the Brough situation, I think we may need to review our thoughts on bringing in another forward, long term at least, though not just anyone, a proper organising half, the question is though, are there any available. I know we have Rocky, but hes covering full back too.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I must say legend, I was scratching my head with some, and even some contract renewals.
Prepared to give them a chance in the red, white and blue, but yes, last night did prove a point.
I also thought that teams that finished around us in the league have done better recruitment in the off season than us.
Now, with the Brough situation, I think we may need to review our thoughts on bringing in another forward, long term at least, though not just anyone, a proper organising half, the question is though, are there any available. I know we have Rocky, but hes covering full back too.'"
Jowett and Walker can cover fullback between them. Hampshire sees himself as a half and now has an opportunity to show everyone he's good enough to take it.
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| Quote ="alegend"I got shot down when I was on about the signings we were making in close season ,and the coaching . Think last night proved my point .'"
Personally I thought Westerman was our best player.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Jowett and Walker can cover fullback between them. Hampshire sees himself as a half and now has an opportunity to show everyone he's good enough to take it.'"
He might but I don't. I actually think Jowitt looked better in the halves against Huddersfield than Hampshire has.
Just my opinion and I know it will no doubt upset lots of folk but I think Rocky still has a long way to go to establish himself as a quality half back.
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| One game in and people already having a meltdown Let's face it, not as bad as last seasons opener and we were sitting in 2nd/3rd at the half way point until an avalanche of injuries hit. Yes it's concerning, but I think people would've kicked off and baying for Chessies blood even if we scraped a win or lost by 2 points. All this negativity on social media by our own fans can't have a positive effect on the team or confidence, but hope we get a better reaction from them next week and start to build some momentum while we start getting some bodies back.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"One game in and people already having a meltdown
Let's face it, not as bad as last seasons opener and we were sitting in 2nd/3rd at the half way point until an avalanche of injuries hit. Yes it's concerning, but I think people would've kicked off and baying for Chessies blood even if we scraped a win or lost by 2 points. All this negativity on social media by our own fans can't have a positive effect on the team or confidence, but hope we get a better reaction from them next week and start to build some momentum while we start getting some bodies back.'"
Bodies back ? We had 4 players out that would have been in the Starting 17 , of the ones due back next week couldn’t see arona making much difference to that - our inability to number up on the line was shocking - thought Atkins had joined the Boy Scouts to operate a semaphore - he was shouting and calling whenever we were defending that right side yet was constantly exposed - despite that being our first choice back line and back 3
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Bodies back ? We had 4 players out that would have been in the Starting 17 , of the ones due back next week couldn’t see arona making much difference to that - our inability to number up on the line was shocking - thought Atkins had joined the Boy Scouts to operate a semaphore - he was shouting and calling whenever we were defending that right side yet was constantly exposed - despite that being our first choice back line and back 3'"
The appalling number of mistakes Chester said 16 put us under the pump and took the juice. Add to that the stupid niggly penalties we seem to keep giving away killed us. At 10-6 at half time I thought we would win in the conditions sadly not. Rivers made a few mistakes but nothing like us. You cannot win a game giving so much territory away. Some players need to smarten up and cut out the penalties!
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Bodies back ? We had 4 players out that would have been in the Starting 17 , of the ones due back next week couldn’t see arona making much difference to that - our inability to number up on the line was shocking - thought Atkins had joined the Boy Scouts to operate a semaphore - he was shouting and calling whenever we were defending that right side yet was constantly exposed - despite that being our first choice back line and back 3'"
I was hoping Walker would be our answer to the defense.
Neither Jowitt nor Hampshire manage the line well.
TJ was surprisingly raw. Hasn't played in a long time.
I felt like Atkins was quite destructive when he took the ball up but didn't actually get a single pass for him to test the winger.
Tupou wasn't bad but has some work to do. Needs ball also.
Looks like Atkins will be in centre next time anyway.
I guess Kershaw will be tested too.
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