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| Strange. I thought we were crap.
The ref didn't miss a tackle, drop the ball, kick badly, be offside, not square or turn his back on the opposition twice etc
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| Chester isn't happy with the ref, interesting when the CEO has publicly said we need to respect the refs decision.
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| Whenever anybody complains about a ref you get the usual guff about them not dropping the ball or missing a tackle blah blah blah. But watching the game live it looked like a double knock on for wigans first, the quick tap for their third was nowhere near the mark and the last try was a double move AND he made contact with his own player. Also after we got it back to 18-16 it was penalty after penalty to Wigan, some of which were dubious to say the least.
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| How many players have we had injured/stretchered off against Wigan this season? Probably more than the amount of minutes Farrell spent onside today
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"Wakefield were about as naive as the ref.
We played right into their game plan'"
Exactly. Same old faces threw that game away.
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| Thought the lads tried and put a big effort in yes at times we looked poor attacking wise and still think hampshire should be at 7.BUT you cant beat a ref like that there 1st and 3rd trys shouldnt of been given the penalty against miller for getting slapped in face just showed what the ref was about and in fairness to our attacking its not easy when the other side are constantly offside
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| Quote ="wotsupcas" Also after we got it back to 18-16 it was penalty after penalty to Wigan, some of which were dubious to say the least.'"
But didn't you get sick of shouting "let go FFS!" just before the ref gave these dubious penalties?
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| Pocket pinched by a very mediocre Wigan team today I’m afraid , knock ons and penalties played
right into their hands .Our inconsistencies in the game continue to haunt us ..Yes they were gifted a try in my opinion , and I thought we defended well ,but if we’d have played anything like at HKR the points would have been ours
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| Take off the rose tinted glasses. We were guff.
A ref bad for both sides means that you have to make things happen.
Too many mistakes and handing over possession means you get what you deserve.
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| Their tap restart try was a joke. The highlights are on Sky now and Marshall is about 6 or 7 metres off centre. The ref just watches play continue!
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| Probably nearer 10 metres!
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That clear enough for everybody. The ref had a big influence on the result today
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That clear enough for everybody. The ref had a big influence on the result today
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| Well that’s never tapped on the mark, but still should never happen.
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| I was not able to attend the game but listened to it on the radio. I got the impression that Brough as the game went on just reverted to type. I note that two of the tries came from kicks other than by Brough. I guess the coach was a little too quick in his Brough gratification after one game. The evidence suggests he just slipped back into his old ways.
I may be wrong but that is how it sounded, and to make matters worse I cannot view the tries on sky because I am not in the UK.
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| We may have been poor in areas regarding kicking, some discipline and execution. But rules are rules the restart must be taking on the 20m centre spot therefore no try. Also you can see on sky that miller's pass is knocked forward by sarginson onto tupou. Therefore a knock on and no try. Sky TV would have ruled these out on a video review and therefore we win the game. On another note Hampshire is absolutely wasted on the wing.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I was not able to attend the game but listened to it on the radio. I got the impression that Brough as the game went on just reverted to type. I note that two of the tries came from kicks other than by Brough. I guess the coach was a little too quick in his Brough gratification after one game. The evidence suggests he just slipped back into his old ways.
I may be wrong but that is how it sounded, and to make matters worse I cannot view the tries on sky because I am not in the UK.'"
Get sky sports news app on ya phone its free then watch on there
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| After all the postings on this thread, who's defending bad refs now ? This keeps happening to us, this is NOT imagination ! Even Chester is not happy, but I suppose certain people will defend him, he made us tap on the right cross on the 20, he let wigan off by 6 meters ? Fact, not fiction, wigan were constantly off side by a meter or more, northstanders going mad, fact not fiction !
However, he is not the cause of us losing overall, but he did well compound the issue & result, this is not saints & roundabouts, it's all one way, we don't win matches with dubious calls by the referee.
Onwards & upwards, if they will let us !
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| a) Two Referees is a must next season (if we have enough Officials)
b) We need a Sky Video Cam/Ref at every match in order to have consistency.
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| Quote ="trin77"We may have been poor in areas regarding kicking, some discipline and execution. But rules are rules the restart must be taking on the 20m centre spot therefore no try. Also you can see on sky that miller's pass is knocked forward by sarginson onto tupou. Therefore a knock on and no try. Sky TV would have ruled these out on a video review and therefore we win the game. On another note Hampshire is absolutely wasted on the wing.'"
Ah!, but Mr Ganson says that we MUST respect and accept the referees, even when one of our players gets smacked in the face and the penalty is given against us.
Some better attack and good defence from us in the second half, but the Wigans, Saints and Leeds' of this world will always get the rub of the green from referees. Sorry Mr Ganson, but I have little, or no respect for your associates.
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| Well just had a good look at the trys.
1. First Wigan try looks an obvious double knock on. Blame the ref but also the touch judge.
2. Tap 20 try he was way off the mark. Tangata was clearly pointing that out to ref . However they say play to the whistle and if we had done that we may have made the takle. Having said that it was an howler by the ref in the first instance.
3. BJB try looked a bit dodgy. Video ref may have over ruled that one.
4. Last try, he pushed his own player to the side to score. Forgot the game but in the last two weeks I have seen a try disallowed because the scoring player just brushed his own player with an elbow (was it in the final ?)
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| We still had enough time on they're line to score two or three tries extra but we didn't know how to. Next year we do need a shake up of staff
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| That last try was a double movement. 100s saw it and officials missed it. Ball carrying arm hit floor and he raised and put it over. 3 x try’s and 18 points. Even taking 4 points for bishop off it’s 14 points swing and a win that could and should have been.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Well just had a good look at the trys.
1. First Wigan try looks an obvious double knock on. Blame the ref but also the touch judge.
2. Tap 20 try he was way off the mark. Tangata was clearly pointing that out to ref . However they say play to the whistle and if we had done that we may have made the takle. Having said that it was an howler by the ref in the first instance.
3. BJB try looked a bit dodgy. Video ref may have over ruled that one.
4. Last try, he pushed his own player to the side to score. Forgot the game but in the last two weeks I have seen a try disallowed because the scoring player just brushed his own player with an elbow (was it in the final ?)'"
I'd add to that Millers try for us came from a forward pass in the build up from Tanginoa. The refereeing for both sides was shocking.
BUT that is not the reason we lost, we managed that all by ourselves.
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| Agree with the last two postings, BUT, don't forget our Mr Ganson, you cannot call into question the referee, therefore, he is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, Right, ! Our problem is we Never benefit from such instances !
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