Why have you left out Paul i ? He is ooc @ the end of the season, he has 12 games to use his ability & continue his career, if he does not, I cannot see him get another contract if he does not produce working hard each game ! I fear for him if he fails to get a contract, where will he go from that position ?

Don't fret pet, have a cup of tea and steady your nerves, you're gonna worry yourself poorly at this rate.

Have you watched Hooley?

I have and I can’t see any development to be honest. He looks ok at Championship level but nothing more. It’s only my opinion on but I see no obvious signs of a SL player. I may be wrong but at this moment no.

Annakin is a tough one, he will be 29 come next season and will have averaged only around 7 games per season. Can’t fault him when on the field as he gives 110%, depends on the wage I guess.

Hooley is a must keep IMO, having watched the first game where he got MOM for Oldham I think he’s an outstanding talent and although an unpopular opinion, better than Jowitt.

Your opinion but I along with many know Max is head and shoulders above Luke at the moment, if Luke gets his chance and some game time at SL level as Lee and Jack has then we will have a better picture but at the moment Max every day of the week.

Amazing to think a player who hasn't played SL and doesn't look likely too in the near future is better than one who has. Then again this is from the poster who thought Jowitt only played 6 games in his first full season.

We all make mistakes Willazy old boy...



Just accept that my opinion is my opinion and move on.

I will submit and rethink to be fair, you’re probably right. At the moment with 55 SL games Max obviously has the experience however I won’t be surprised in a few years time to see Hooley as our number 1.

Good comment BLM.

Kirmond and Amnakin definitely to go for me, I think. Kirmo is too injury prone, and it isn't just this year. Would be interested to see what % of games he has played since about 2015, and I think we get more out of Jordy and Batch to be honest than what we get from Annakin.

Not sure about Pauli. For me think he does need to get in better condition. If he did that, than I do think we've a good player on our hands. Maybe an extension, but with a condition of his fitness within the contract.

Randell is a tough one. He has had his injury problems, but he is a good player, and he balances well with Wood. His latest injury he had been carrying a while, and maybe that is why he has appeared to play within himself.

Think it's hard to call on Baldwinson, as hes barely featured since been here.

In a nutshell, for me, we need to freshen up our front row. Engy has been good, but has started to pick up more knocks and they're taking longer to heal, so maybe he should be used more sparingly now. Back up prop maybe, I think Huby may be finished. Hirst not sure, as you cant keep everyone.

That leaves the half back situation. I've been critical of Miller in recent weeks, and I think its justified, but you don't turn into a bad player overnight. Maybe its the burden of captaincy effecting him. I am a big Rocky fan, and would love to keep him, but no player bigger than club, regardless of who they are.

I do agree regarding the posts on MCB, and for me if we did, he would be first choice in 2020.

Who knows, one of the new players could be a leader, which I do think we lack.

IIRC I'm sure I remember MC talking about how many full backs we had under contract for next season & he said that there was something going on with regard to Hooley which he couldn't go into at the moment. No idea what he was referring to?

Westerman has had a solid game for hull tonight against a tough Cas side .

Dont talk wet.
Best joke post of the season so far.

I have watched Holley play several times, he is quite a good player, not sure of SL level yet, but, each time I have seen him play i took notice, he lacks real pace, some thing you need in SL , !!!!!

Would you say that’s something that Max has? Pace?

Max as enough pace, think Crowther could be one to go as well

Dreadnought, Max does have more pace than Hooley, Max ran a try in off Fifita from half way, out pacing the defence something Holley has not done & cannot do. However, I grant you that there are faster full backs than Max, but not many can play cut out passes as accurately consistently as Max, certainly not Holley yet !

Baldwinson was released some time ago and is at York I believe.

Wow so I got a match prediction wrong. It’s not like I get my own team’s players wrong or pretend to be an expert on anything academy related.



Well done for being a bigger clown than Bojo. That takes some doing.

Never write off the black and whites

Desperately need some power up front , glaringly obvious when fifita not on the park how we struggle going forward.Our back line is as good as I’ve every seen at belle vue when all in the park but can’t perform miracles without the forwards laying that platform .For me kirmond has been a top club man but hard to keep on the park ,Hirst for his build/size should be an enforcer but not lived up to it , Pauli has been in holiday mode too long and if this loan hasn’t shaken him up well he’s taking a valuable place up front as well , England has been good but has fallen off somewhat so I hope he can find his game again .Just my take on things

Fair comment TrinTrin but I don't see how we'd know that for sure?

Not going to bite on this one

We are lacking metre makers and props need to be the priority next year. Atleast 2 x quality props imo. The back line I’m pretty happy with though mcb would be a good signing.

Its been alarming the lack of metres and penetration our forwards are producing presently.

Luke Hooley doesn’t lack pace, he’s not Jamie Shaun quick but he’s fast enough and IMO as quick as Max Jowitt.

He’s become a Full Back but was also considered a very good Stand Off so those doubting his passing game are ill informed. That’s not to say that his passing is better or worse than Max’s.

Max has about 2 years on Luke so it’s not a like for like comparison but obviously Max has much more experience than Luke at this point in time

What Luke does better than Max is organise from the back, he’s better at reading defences and his calling of attacking plays is better as a result.

Luke also has a huge boot on him and can put the ball 50m through the air, which is a great asset in today’s game. He’s also a very good goal kicker.

Right now Max Jowitt is the better more matured player and has some development left in him but if both reach their full potential then Luke would get the nod over him.

Another player you clearly have not watched EVER! when did he get MOM for third tier Oldham exactly?

He's not in the same class as Jowitt was at that age, I think you just make this stuff up as you go along. He's played one game against SL opposition and he looked totally lost.

Chester gave him big raps a few seasons back because he was training hard that's all, he's never seriously considered playing him and this seasons there have been occasions.

He may make it who knows but to claim he's better than Max proves you've never seen him play.