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| Quote ="homme vaste"Max has a fractured hand.'"
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Hampshire - Max Jowitt
Hirst- Yusuf Aydin
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Crowther -Titus Gwaze
Due to injuries I'd be left with no option other than to leave the next three in
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I'm glad you're not the coach.
I'm not wanting to knock the kid but, do you really think that Gwaze would get through the same work load as Crowther and you would put Reynolds in instead of Randall ??
Who's playing 6,7,9and 13 in your side and who will be making all the tackles
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I'm glad you're not the coach.
I'm not wanting to knock the kid but, do you really think that Gwaze would get through the same work load as Crowther and you would put Reynolds in instead of Randall ??
Who's playing 6,7,9and 13 in your side and who will be making all the tackles
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Right back about you Wrencat.
I don’t think Crowthers work rate is higher than anyone else’s and besides, go down and watch an academy game as there’s a lot to Gwaze that you won’t know after simply googling him.
Reynolds is well known for his versatility after playing fullback, stand off, scrum half, hooker and even filling in at loose during his days at Leigh. Wood, Miller, Brough and Reynolds would do just fine and prove that going forward.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Right back about you Wrencat.
I don’t think Crowthers work rate is higher than anyone else’s and besides, go down and watch an academy game as there’s a lot to Gwaze that you won’t know after simply googling him.
Reynolds is well known for his versatility after playing fullback, stand off, scrum half, hooker and even filling in at loose during his days at Leigh. Wood, Miller, Brough and Reynolds would do just fine and prove that going forward.'"
However I will admit that would leave us lacking in defence but it’s going forward we’re struggling with
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| I don’t have a good feeling about this one, we’ve a terrible record at Salford over the last few years.
Based on Chester’s post match interview it doesn’t sound like Ashurst or Batchelor will play, why would we recall Pauli literally days after the second month agreement? I also have my doubts about big Dave and Tupou isn’t ready.
Not even going to type out the list of injuries there’s just too many.
Not that I’m making an excuse I still feel like we have enough bodies to get a result.
Critical stage of the season if we are serious about mounting a top 5 challenge
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Hampshire - Max Jowitt
Hirst- Yusuf Aydin
Randell - Ben Reynolds
Crowther -Titus Gwaze
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So you want to play a guy with a broken hand at full back?
A prop who has never played super league at 13
A half back at hooker
And a young prop who I think is still actually competing his studies at college.
Sure. You're not trolling at all.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Max has a fractured hand.'" his injury hasn't reached his press headlines yet
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"go down and watch an academy game as there’s a lot to Gwaze that you won’t know after simply googling him.'"
I suggest you go and watch a few academy games as he hasn't played in one this season, he's been out on loan, he is sa totally different kind of player to Jordy and offers no where near the work rate in defence, and can only run in a straight line as most props do, you do know Jordy is a 2nd rower/loose forward don't you?
Seems you don't watch many games
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| Quote ="financialtimes"I suggest you go and watch a few academy games as he hasn't played in one this season, he's been out on loan, he is sa totally different kind of player to Jordy and offers no where near the work rate in defence, and can only run in a straight line as most props do, you do know Jordy is a 2nd rower/loose forward don't you?
Seems you don't watch many games
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Don’t let them draw you FT, I don’t
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| All I’m hoping for whoever gets the nod at Salford is they have a dig and gets stuck in ,can’t ask for anymore realistically with the players we have on the sidelines.Salford will be targeting this game and hopefully our back room staff will get the players motivated and psyched up for this one .
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| Gwaze is never going to be SL level
Aydin needs time to develop yet, putting him in now would crucify him
Hooley needs to kick on from Championship level, he’s stagnated a little in the last 12 months.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Gwaze is never going to be SL level
Aydin needs time to develop yet, putting him in now would crucify him
Hooley needs to kick on from Championship level, he’s stagnated a little in the last 12 months.'"
Bit early to be be writing Gwaze off yet. He’s been going alright at Oldham by all accounts and we’ve just given him another years contract. I’d like to see him step up and have a year in the championship to see how he handles it before casting him aside. It’s a big 12 months for him.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Our form + Salford’s form + our record at the AJ =
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Not sure about Salfords form, they’ve lost their last four games. Chuck in a couple of injuries they’ve got and i reckon we’ve a decent chance.
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| Leaving aside the trolling suggestions of ridiculous replacements - that's far from a terrible squad on paper; but as we're painfully aware, on paper means absolutely nothing.
Salford are a weird side - they can play some scintillating rugby that is very difficult to defend; and they have, perversely, one of the best hb pairings in SL to set those plays up. Conversely, they can also be crap, which we have to hope for.
Two sides with the ability to deliver rocks and diamonds; it could either be a cracking game of nip and tuck - or utter dross.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Bit early to be be writing Gwaze off yet. He’s been going alright at Oldham by all accounts and we’ve just given him another years contract. I’d like to see him step up and have a year in the championship to see how he handles it before casting him aside. It’s a big 12 months for him.'"
I dont think anyone is writing him off.
This was all in response to a certain poster writing off half of the current side and wanting to replace them with just about anyone, regardless of their ability to play in the positions that suited that particular poster's agenda.
All youngsters develop at differing speeds and some dont make the grade but, that's a whole different subject to wanting to replace 4/5 first team regulars with untried youngsters (Reynolds apart) although our "friend" wanted him to play #9.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I dont think anyone is writing him off.
This was all in response to a certain poster writing off half of the current side and wanting to replace them with just about anyone, regardless of their ability to play in the positions that suited that particular poster's agenda.
All youngsters develop at differing speeds and some dont make the grade but, that's a whole different subject to wanting to replace 4/5 first team regulars with untried youngsters (Reynolds apart) although our "friend" wanted him to play #9.'"
Avenger posted "Gwaze is never going to be SL level " if that is not writing him off then I don`t know what is?
Lets not get dragged down to the posters level.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So you want to play a guy with a broken hand at full back?
A prop who has never played super league at 13
A half back at hooker
And a young prop who I think is still actually competing his studies at college.
Sure. You're not trolling at all.'"
Please do not derail the thread.
Hampshire - Max Jowitt - As already mentioned I swapped Max to Hooley.
Hirst- Yusuf Aydin - Aydin is literally known for his effectiveness at loose forward during his time at Eastmoor (albeit amateur). Does this mean he should never get his chance because he's never played there?
Randell - Ben Reynolds "Half back at hooker" Kyle Wood was originally a halfback? Reynolds as I said earlier has played 1, 6, 7, 9, 13 and I beleive back in the Champ days he played on the wing.
Crowther -Titus Gwaze Why have him in our squad if the excuse of college means he can't play rugby?
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Seems you don't watch many games
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Jesus... at what point did I state I'd watched him this season?
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Please do not derail the thread.
Hampshire - Max Jowitt - As already mentioned I swapped Max to Hooley.
Hirst- Yusuf Aydin - Aydin is literally known for his effectiveness at loose forward during his time at Eastmoor (albeit amateur). Does this mean he should never get his chance because he's never played there?
Randell - Ben Reynolds "Half back at hooker" Kyle Wood was originally a halfback? Reynolds as I said earlier has played 1, 6, 7, 9, 13 and I beleive back in the Champ days he played on the wing.
Crowther -Titus Gwaze Why have him in our squad if the excuse of college means he can't play rugby?'"
Nothing says they can't play those positions but to choose them randomly to fill positions for the first time is just not right for them or the club.
If you want to replace Crowther (which I wouldn't but it's your choice) you have King, Batch, Annakin, Randall and Tanginoa all with more experience than the kid who is still learning his trade. You'd cause more damage than good.
But you knew that already of course.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Jesus... at what point did I state I'd watched him this season?'"
You suggested a poster above go watch some games rather than use Google..... So I'm assuming your logic for these picks is in fact from Google then?
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| To get back on track I think id go with this team.
Rocky
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Assuming Ashurst, Batch and Tupou are still out.
Croft saved for another day. If Tupou plays I'd probably put MCB on the wing but I do like Kershaw.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Nothing says they can't play those positions but to choose them randomly to fill positions for the first time is just not right for them or the club.
If you want to replace Crowther (which I wouldn't but it's your choice) you have King, Batch, Annakin, Randall and Tanginoa all with more experience than the kid who is still learning his trade. You'd cause more damage than good.
But you knew that already of course.'"
That's quite hypocritical wouldn't you say? James Batchelor aged 21 with 28 SL games under his belt, personally I would say he's also still learning his trade and Batch has prodimiatley played in the SR so I reckon it'd be fair to say you'd cause more damage than good.
But you knew that already of course.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You suggested a poster above go watch some games rather than use Google..... So I'm assuming your logic for these picks is in fact from Google then?'"
I'd don't know why you're trying so hard to make out that I'm trolling but no, you assumed wrong. I went down and watched him in the academy but not once did I state that it was this season.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Not sure about Salfords form, they’ve lost their last four games. Chuck in a couple of injuries they’ve got and i reckon we’ve a decent chance.'"
We couldn’t score against Leeds - and Brough even missed the penalty kick. Either our attack steps up or Salford’s defence crumbles, perhaps both have to happen.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Avenger posted "Gwaze is never going to be SL level " if that is not writing him off then I don`t know what is?
Lets not get dragged down to the posters level.'"
Gwaze is no where near SL level and IMO won’t make it to that standard. I understand that he’s still developing but he’s a long way off
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