What do they have? Around about an extra million on their payroll costs I suggest. Read Rod Studds words. If you want better results, pay for better players. Its pretty simple.

In a nutshell. Although it doesn't always compute otherwise we'd be in the qualifiers.

Not always - and I do my best to avoid reading Rod Studd's words, since he started ranting and raving on social media like a drunk fan.

And I'm sure the lads will be motivated by that sentiment at the end of season bash; it's a bit like being told that you're good looking...for your age.

To a point but we have ‘boxed above our weight’ for years and until we get more fans turning up or a sugar daddy then we need to get value for money.

Its definitely not anything coach related, to me its simple, while we are no doubt improving year on year which is great to see, we are yet to experience a number of 'big games' when winning really matters. As people say the top teams can win when the pressure is really on. This thing comes with both time and more experience. The more pressure games we are in when it comes to the crunch end of the season the better.

Both times last season against Saints at Home and Hull away we fell agonisingly short, at no fault of any individual, more around key decisions and doing the right thing in the heat of the moment.

Pains me to say it but we are 2-3 years behind Cas..

I think 2-3 years behind Cas is a great position to be in.
They were challenging for LLS at that time and just missed out.

We are often talked about as being a team who punches above our weight.
I'm not sure that's quite as true as it used to be.

A better description is that we play better as a team than other teams with better individuals. That is a testament to the coach and coaching team.


Saying that we have great players in our team that other top teams would happily sign. That's because we've got our finances in order despite not having the money others have.

What at load of old tosh especially 2-3 years behind Cas.

Some people just need to work that one through the ole number cruncher before knocking the coach.

Well i for one will not be attending any more games untill the whole coaching and managment regime are disposed of, the embarrasment and shame of only finishing in the top eight and not winning a trophy is unbearable ! Combined with the fact that with our massive budget we are struggling to beat minnows like wigan ,st helens ,hull ect ect i suggest all concerned resign now!

You only need to look at how Leeds have fizzled out.
They have some decent players but no leaders.
It's all about coming into a side with confidence.
Reading some of the Whinos fans opinions on their players, they've gone from world beaters to rubbish players in a season!

sick of reading words like punching above their weight means absolute jack S**t, you get what you put in life and if you can't be d you'll get found out and put aside
take Rob Burrow as an example

I take it the above post is sarcasm

yes for the same value

Which team would you rather be Leeds, Salford, Hull KR, Widnes or Wakefield, I know which one I would choose. We are at least still trying to win rather than going through the motions like Hull. I put that down to the coaching and the obvious connection they must have with the players.
We are not the most consistent, we never have been but when we do win it is not usually greeted with amazement, well not every time.
We are building slowly but every year the squad is growing in strength. We are retaining our most marketable players to long term contracts when not too long ago they would be unsettled by some clubs just indicating an interest.
Do you think Salford with retain Hastings, they took the gamble that no other club was willing to take with him and now Wigan and Huddersfield are wanting to sign him, when they could have done so before he joined Salford, the same with Edwards at Catalan.
If I had one disappointment it is our chairman who appears not to enjoy our games judging by the look on his face when he appears alongside the coaching staff in the stands.

Well done

If I had one disappointment in your piece it is you having a snipe at our chairman

Thought you were better than that Scarlet. He's not bullet proof or anything but that is a weak dig.

It was not actually intended as a dig just my attempt at humour.

Yeah, it’s more like 4-5!

Ah OK. I retract my disappointment.

That's how I read it too.