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| Chessy out is plain stupid as for Kear he has walked twice now MC tried to keep him but he chose Bradford as Head Coach so bye!
Where we are really failing is stupid penalties around the ruck and the poor handling that is impacting on our possession and giving the opposition field position and cheap easy possession. This really needs sorting. Tonight in the second half we saw a number of passes into touch had they come off great but we seem to be like headless chickens at times. If you retain possession and get field position its a game of percentages and patience we seem to be struggling with this concept at the moment. That said I love the off the cuff stuff but it comes with risks.
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| I'm amazed that there's such disinterested in the challenge cup. Given the current format you're far more likely for success in it than in the league - you only need to win 3 games to be in the final, and potentially this year two of those could be against championship opposition.
I don't believe for a second when Chester said that the cup is not his priority.
My opinion is that Wakefield are too good to finish 9tb but not good enough to finish 4th..... The challenge cup and drawing Huddersfield was a great chance for Chester to get a buzz around the club that's been distinctly lacking over the years.
It was a really strange statement to say it wasn't his priority.
Thats being said, he's been a solid coach for Wakefield and I'd ask logically who you'd bring in on his wages who is guaranteed to do better?
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| going to sleep on this one as I'm mighty disappointed with them tonight but Chester out is not the answer.
one person you can blame is me, on most of the loses I've had a cheeky bet on them to win and every time they have let me down so never again no more bets
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| Quote ="homme vaste"
Tell you what I watched wakey for 35 years I currentley watch my lads and have done for 7 years I see better rugby at under at under 8s than what wakey ate playing but you wanna do rude things with him rugby wise he aint good enough
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"To say Chester out is just daft.
BUT...i personally think he got it wrong by publicly stating that it wasn’t his priority and that finishing top 6 was. It gives a negative mindset from the get go and shows a lack of ambition imho.'"
Have to agree with this.
Of course its critical that we achieve SL survival but, Chester seemed to be writing off our only slight (very) chance of success and that isn't right.
Even if we're prioritising the league, publicly we have to sat that we're throwing everything at the cup game.
On to the game, what the hell are we doing.
Set completion (or lack of it) plus penalties conceded is just killing us.
WE can have a host of moves but, when we're turning the ball over on tackle 2 or 3, whilst in the opposition 20, we wont win anything.
Yes, there were some iffy calls but, the ref had a better game than most of our players.
Out of the cup with barely a whimper, so bloody disappointing and worst of all, Huddersfield didnt need to do anything special to secure the win.
Let's at least make it hard for the opposition ??
Just on a side note, I'm sure that Leigh's priority is promotion to SL but, it didnt stop them scalping Salford.
I wonder which side, Wakefield or Leigh will take confidence into their respective games next week ??
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| Quote ="Willzay"I think the recruitment has been poor this year. Baldwinson not given a chance, Hampshire been hit and miss (not given a chance in his favoured position), and as for Horo and PP, well not much needs to be said about them too.'"
Pauli Pauli was quality tonight. He's getting undeserved stick from some people.
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| Some of the people on here really need a reality check. As do many people around me at the match tonight. Some people may have been watching for years but **** me they don't half talk some crap. Chester out??? Not trying??? How is the coach to blame for such a dire second half?? Completion rate of probably 10% knocking on 4-5 times in the opposition 20! Yes must be the coach?? If we were completing sets and not getting points then yes that's the coach having training issues. At the end of the day we beat ourseves tonight! I do wonder if I'm watching the same game as some people. Get s grip. The individual errors tonight were shambolic but yeah let's blame the coach?? **** me get a grip
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| Danny Brough show? We beat ourselves tonight pure and simple. He didn't do anything out of the ordinary. I love how people blame individuals. The only plus I can find is that it's the Cup. Over and out
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| Do people on here really think these performances are going to bring the crowds back in to watch that garbage week in week out ,with a smattering if wins here and their .Im scratching my head to think back to when we had a playing roster of this quality yet put out such inept performances .
At this rate if we do End up at Dewsbury it will be plenty big enough for our dwindling supporters.
I can stomach defeat every day of the week ,but what I can’t is players and staff who collectively turn out performances like that .
It just not acceptable ,all I want from this club it to wear our great shirt with pride and passion,something which has been sadly lacking this season bar a few performances.
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| Why is it whenever we lose, we have Cas fans coming on here sticking in there two pennyworth?
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| Quote ="wakefield1990"Some of the people on here really need a reality check. =#FF0000As do many people around me at the match tonight. Some people may have been watching for years but **** me they don't half talk some crap. Chester out??? Not trying??? How is the coach to blame for such a dire second half?? Completion rate of probably 10% knocking on 4-5 times in the opposition 20! Yes must be the coach?? If we were completing sets and not getting points then yes that's the coach having training issues. At the end of the day we beat ourseves tonight! I do wonder if I'm watching the same game as some people. Get s grip. The individual errors tonight were shambolic but yeah let's blame the coach?? **** me get a grip'" we had some behind us constantly asking for the ball to be punted down the field and chased after, if these are the tactics the fans want you do have to ask about their knowledge of the game
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| I thinks it's about time CC took Tupou to one side and gave him a bloody good bollocking about dying with every chuffin ball he gets. That break by Paulie Paulie had try written all over it until BT failed to get his winger away. With a kick to come we would've been just 4 behind with plenty on the clock.
Not one pass from him throughout the full 80!
We bombed too many chances in that 1st half. WTF was Wood doing when he had Jowitt on his shoulder with a clear run under the sticks and he threw a wild pass out wide somewhere. The kick earlier when two of our guys just ran over the ball in goal.
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| Why so many surprised comments. Its far easier for any Trinity fan to go in to any game with no expectations . Its what wakey do best. Must say with the squad we had and last seasons results I honestly expected a much better season, but if any club can f***** it up it ours.
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| I think what hurts me most is seeing a local lad Matty English have the enthusiasm to rip us open, one part of my was pleased to see him score, watching his development through the years at Stanley Rangers and Outwood school he's turning into a no nonsense forward
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| Quote ="snowie"I think what hurts me most is seeing a local lad Matty English have the enthusiasm to rip us open, one part of my was pleased to see him score, watching his development through the years at Stanley Rangers and Outwood school he's turning into a no nonsense forward'"
He's not the 1st and he won't be the last Wakefield area player to take the Shudds dollar. Did he have any affinity to Trinity prior, because he clearly had no respect for the Wakefield fans he gestured to after scoring.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"He's not the 1st and he won't be the last Wakefield area player to take the Shudds dollar. Did he have any affinity to Trinity prior, because he clearly had no respect for the Wakefield fans he gestured to after scoring.'" I don't think he did, at the time there was a lot of clubs after him and I think even us showed interest but at the time, Shudds was flying high with expectations and it was local to travel to rather than wigan and wire
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Challenge cup's rubbish nowadays, we can concentrate on the league now.
Up the Trin'"
Hmm. It's the only Cup we have a cat in Hell's of winning. I am very disappointed but I couldn't go, so can't comment on the performance. All I can say is, we are a worse side than last season. I held judgement on this till now, especially with the fixture list we had, but the HKR performance was far from completely convincing. As someone who got berated pointed out, we were very poor for 20 mins in the first half and could have gifted a game to a team we are better than on paper. Yes, we put some good stuff together...in the end, with some good play, some lucky breaks and a strangely beneficent Mr Child, we got a scoreline I never felt comfortable getting carried away with. I suspected we'd get beaten last night and so it was. I think the 'Chester Out' title is harsh at the moment ....but I would have to say there is something very wrong with the way we are playing when in possession and it needs fixing fast or we will be having a very poor season and maybe even a middle 8 scrap. At the end of the day, who is out there better to replace him, unless we get John Kear back!? If we destabilize the ship now I would fear for us big time. Although I have my concerns, I think it's cool heads time, as badly disappointed as I am by this defeat and another Cup Final free year
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"And the prize money, TV appearance cash, extra sales etc. The run in 2016 was worth circa 250K.'"
Sadly, you are about 249k out.
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| Quote ="snowie"I think what hurts me most is seeing a local lad Matty English have the enthusiasm to rip us open, one part of my was pleased to see him score, watching his development through the years at Stanley Rangers and Outwood school he's turning into a no nonsense forward'"
He’s been on loan at dewsbury with Jordan Snowie, like you rightly say, a no nonsense prop, does the basics right, good to see Hudds bring him in and show trust, hope he keeps his spot.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"He’s been on loan at dewsbury with Jordan Snowie, like you rightly say, a no nonsense prop, does the basics right, good to see Hudds bring him in and show trust, hope he keeps his spot.'" yes I saw he had been to dewsbury, another of one of their players is a leeds lad played for Hunslet park side Billy Hayes not sure if he's now made a full move to them, he showed potential to be a very good scrum half but seemed to disappear for a period as lads do.
nice to see lads progress even if its not for your club you support
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Sadly, you are about 249k out.'"
It would have been if we’d made the final! Thats the figure Steve Gill quoted as Cas making in 2014 ( getting confused in my anger last night!).
There was though an uplift in attendances during our run in the other games that seasons that put money in the coffers and it raised the clubs profile, something which for clubs like ours is priceless. Cup runs make it a lot easier to balance the books moving forward.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Sadly, you are about 249k out.'"
Rofl....
You know what its like on here.
The World has ended
till next week
...and then it'll be about to end !
I'm going to Ikea now, that is truly going to be life ending experience
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Sadly, you are about 249k out.'"
Are you saying that financially, we're better off out of the cup ?
We certainly wont have made a fortune on our share last nights gate, which was pitiful, but, there's some brass to be made if we could get as far as Wembley.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Are you saying that financially, we're better off out of the cup ?
We certainly wont have made a fortune on our share last nights gate, which was pitiful, but, there's some brass to be made if we could get as far as Wembley.'"
No I was answering a direct statement about getting to a semi final in 2016
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| By my count only one person the whole thread thinks we are even close to thinking of losing Chester.
I do think he's tried to change things slightly this year and it has affected play but I remember McDermott doing that at Leeds and having a bad run but once they got used to it the won GF after GF.
I liked the idea of a big pack and wearing teams out but it isn't quite working for us yet. Clearly Big Dave is the jewel in the crown. Huby and England are doing well but are not monsters. Keegan and PP are monsters but can't keep hold of the ball so are nullifying their talent. Even Arona is missing tackles he didn't used to miss.
The coach needs to find out why and get them back to their best. Less about big battering rams and more about quite big skilful forwards.
The other thing that seems to have changed is accuracy of passing. We have two excellent hookers who give good service but Randell is more accurate than Wood who puts the ball too high sometimes. The half backs seem to be all over the place. The pass is again nullifying the pace out wide.
When it's fast and accurate like for one of Grix tries last week we are unplayable but we are way off our best.
I have no problem with effort. It's all about execution.
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