I don’t think personally he’s as good as some others do, but again that’s my opinion.I think he’s average and at times lazy, regarding Whinos academy they usually have some decent forwards in their ranks who the coaches tend to trust and promote into SL.

Think your being a bit harsh on him there.
I'd always had him down as giving nigh on 100% every time.

You're right about Leeds (and some others) being happy to "trust" their youngsters a little more but, an odd reverse fo some of the big clubs isn't the end of the world, whereas, for the mid table sides, its all a bit more sensitive and a couple of games lost, whilst "experimenting" could threaten our top flight status.
The one huge advantage of the licensing/franchising system was that it took pressure of the lower ranked sides and allowed every club the luxury of being able to bring the youngsters through without quite so much pressure on the result and for a while, there seemed to be a glut of new players breaking into SL.

That's the way I was looking at it.

I think you've confused us all a bit, are you talking about Arona or King?

Totally agree with Fifita.

It's not just his on field ability, it's how his sheer presence seems to lift, influence and inspire both his teammates and fans; he's become the club's talisman.

Arona

Never heard you criticise a Wakey player before. Personally I’m not to fussed - there are a lot of players kicking about who are as good a Arona.

Don’t see him as lazy but don’t think he creates much either. Were he a British player I’m not sure he’d get as many plaudits.

Don’t know anything about this King lad but these English big club rejects always seem to do well for us.

That said I like Arona enough to want him to stay if possible.

George has signed for next year this will be announced in next couple of weeks

Been watching Normy and Underbank this afternoon (George King apparently is coach at Underbank) and was told the same by a bloke stood near me. We shall see. Would'nt be rugby league without a decent rumour would it.

Maybe it's because there's another player who he has a certain attachment to who plays in the same position?

He is there assistant coach and yea I was there and asked him.

We have Finn and Kirmond to consider. There’s your prize half back.

I like Arona, can cover prop at a push. Very solid and consistent performer every game. Hope we keep him.

So do I, but maybe it's out of our hands unfortunately.

My take on it for what its worth:

I would be happy with King, from what I have seen he looks a solid SL player.

I would keep Arona if at all possible but if he (his agent) is asking too much or he has a big offer elsewhere then I would be disappointed to see him go but would understand why the club wouldn't break the bank for him.

Finn is a tough one, he has been great for us since he signed but the past few games he has played he has looked past it but is that due to him carrying an injury? The guy has a great rugby brain and I would be looking at keeping him at the club possibly in a player coach role if the price is right.

Kirmond i did think previousley that his performances were declining but he has been great in the past couple of games and also he is great around the club. I think I would offer him another year.

Agree with what you say in the above and also with regard to Finn, he didn't have much of an out of season break as he was involved in the World Cup and that is why, I feel, that he has currently gone away in order to recharge the batteries. Us old uns need our rest at sometime.

I’d be happy with King, a good young experienced SL player, but for me it’s time to let Kirmond go. He’s been a great servant & played at times when he shouldn’t but at this moment in time I’d be happier with Batchelor in his place!

By gum Harrison that took awhile to grasp, I hope kids at school pay more attention.

Agreed, that’s not to take anything away from Kirmond. One of the clubs greats of recent times for his influence and contribution.