Well I would rather read the views of those who can see the blatant disregard the council and MP have for the community stadium issue than your usual anti club rhetoric.

I see that "The Thought Police" are still alive and kicking. The more people that expose the workings of WMDC the better whether it is on this Forum or not. Do you find it acceptable balls-in- hand that Peter Box can publicly state that Newmarket was nothing to do with him or the Council and then start dictating the odds regarding the whole debacle????
The more freedom of speech the better. It also keeps this forum busy during the closed season.

I know you’ve got a grievance against MC, but you bang on about the posters on here going over the same ground

talk about kettle calling the pan

I don’t even mention MC, I would say he has more of a problem with me. I read the council lied about this etc. but who was it that suffers from mosqueaphobia. This is a new irrational fear of mosques being built with the support of the council.

Cool story that but what has it got to do with WMDC handing green belt land over to a developer. under the promise of a Community Stadium and other sporting facilities being built (2 full size 3G pitches and seperate changing rooms), along with providing around 2000 new jobs for said Community & ratepayers under a S106 agreement. All this was achieved with the help of 15000 signatures in supprt by the people of Wakefeild/ratepayers.

What have we go to show for all those promises 7 years on, a huge box that counts towards nothing for the ratepayers you go on about so much and about 125 jobs. Not excatly what WMDC and Yorkcourt said is it, in fact it's nowhere close. You don't think said ratepayers of Wakefield should be concerned about that hey? Ateotd this development was meant to be built with little cost to WMDC. You'd think they'd do everything in their power to make it happen wouldn't you, but all we've heard until recently is that it's nothing to do with them, strange that.

You seem to think all this is about ' the 5 or 6 of you on here', well that speaks volumes about where you're coming from tbh.
You also constantly paint this as just being about Trinity, when it's not at all. It's about the Community at large as well as Trinity being let down by both parties involved, whether that's the sports facilties or the jobs.

By the way if you think MC has a 'problem' with you, it can't be anything to do (even though you claim to be a Trinity fan) with your constant anti Trinity slant since you joined the site. I don't see MC having a 'problem' with anyone else, do you.

You say you'll leave it at that but I bet when any other news about the stadium, Newmarket or WMDC pops up, you'll be soon on here to put your views across.

Scarlett defended Agar to the hilt when he was running this club into the ground, why am I not suprised he's taking the Council's side here.

Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.

Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.

So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.

I'm still waiting for your solutions to our ground problem.

He is perfectly entitled yes but his blatant vendetta against MC does get rather tedious.

Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both

That's a fair point to be honest. I was tending to agree with Pop tart but you're right.

I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum

I've been clear to the Cas fans that it isn't their forum so need to understand they will be treated more harshly if they (or any other away fan) come on to troll or wind us up.
As far as I know Scarlett is a Wakefield fan.

If I was judging posts on substance there would pretty much be a couple of Trust members left on here

And no one has ever reported anything he has said.

In the same example, plenty of people had a problem with Glover when he was chairman and aired their view a lot on here. I'm pretty supportive of our chairman and what he has done for the club but the rules apply to us all equally on here. Me included.
Unless a posted says something against the AUP they are pretty free to go.

Saying that I'll look at the posts again.
If anyone can give a good example where the AUP has been breached then I or Wildthing can deal with it just like anyone else.
Irritating you or having a different opinion isn't one of those examples though.

You say you are a supporter of the club yet all your posts appear negative towards it and it’s chairman.

You say the comments cannot be verified but how do you know? In any event it is peoples views based on the information put forward by the club/trust vs that supplied by the council. Most people want the best for the club and can see the clear agenda on the councils part to look like they have done all they can and make out it’s the clubs fault nothing has happened.

Part of the reason the thread is so long is things keep needing repeating as people seem to keep coming up with views based on a clear misunderstanding of the information laid before them and the record needs setting straight

Also just cos a number of folk think box and his cronies are useless why do we need to stand against them? It’s like me suggesting you offer to buy the club from MC as you seem to suggest he isn’t acting in the best interests of the club

I have quite a wide circle of mates who are Waky fans and we all have realised what is happening in the big picture here and at the risk of upsetting SP we all back MC to the hilt. The council might have thought they were being clever and winning a propaganda war with an announcement laying the blame for failure at Wakefield Trinity's door (Re Belle Vue) but it was the final clincher and the penny finally dropped for us all that we were never going to get anything from this present lot.

As am I and I also don't blindly except what the Club says, even though I'd take MC's word over some developer or WMDC, just down to experience.
What I can do on this issue though to get the facts, is go back to WMDC's planning portal when all this started and read for myself what was promsied, for what reasons & how it was all gong to happen. Plus how Yorkcout got all that land taken out of greenbelt down to a S106 agreement. Which like I said to your previous point, was a lot to do with the 15000 signatures & the backing of the Community as a whole, as well as the need of better Community Sports facilities and creating jobs. Which WMDC were supposedly 100% behind back then. It is there where I have issue with what you say.

You try to paint a picture of this being all abour just Trinity, when factually that's wrong. You constantly talk about the ratepayer but yet fail to see it's them that's been shafted in this, Trinity supporter or not. Even if you're trying to play devils advocate as a Trinity fan about this issue, it doesn't come across that way at all to me. In fact if you're a Wakefield ratepayer, how don't you feel completely let down by all this?

You also say this forum is 'now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension.' No you're wrong, on the issue of what has happened at Newmarket, I think you'll find most people certainly agree that we've been shafted by several people , not just WMDC. But as far as topics such as the team, players we've got, new signings & how well we've played etc, it certainly isn't. We have a wide and varied discussion about those topics, but I suppose that doesn't suit your agenda/opinion.

This quote from February 2014 would suggest otherwise - can't be d to look for any more details but your statement above is clearly wrong.



You joined February 2014, Agar left in June 2014

HTH

You have either forgotten or was oblivious to the fact that before Scarlet Pimpernel reinvented himself he used to post as Agent13, well inside Agar's tenure.

A bit O/T but who was Rhubarb, was this another of Scarlett's posting names.

So you think that only one person can have an opinion that is contrary to you how quaint. I think you will find that they will have been hounded off the site rather than being reborn under a new name but if you want to believe it and it makes you all feel more secure go for it.

Nah - he didn't have agendas as such, he was a twillock to everyone!

So, who are all the poor posters who have been 'hounded' off the forum?
You sneer at others making claims then make bizarre claims of your own with no substance
whatsoever.

You really don't deserve all this attention you are getting TBF, you so obviously have your own private
agenda against MC and are using this forum as a platform to voice it.

Pretty sad really.

Scarlet Pimpernell is James Elston, and I claim my free double glazing and copy of Nuts magazine.

Or his girlfriend - she had a grudge if I recall.