I wondered that myself given where the Star gets all their info from.

So have the club seen figures or not because if they have then they are being a little disingenuous. And why 'entirely the fault of Wakefield Council'. Surely the developer is also just as culpable by not pushing the site? It isn't the councils job to sign up clients for land developers. I'd be going after both.

No mention either of the trigger point at Newmarket which will be a major player in all this. And are we still fighting for a stadium there given mentions of the PP up there or are we battling for the Belle Vue development with the correct rent? It doesn't make clear what we are wanting.

And another thing, as we are currently paying a commercial rent and ground upkeep to 88M now as we were to the BOI, then why would paying a commercial rent moving forwards (that we claim not to have seen) take us back to 2013? Surely we would just be stuck at 2017 levels which is 'a club (that) is unrecognizable from the mess we inherited in September 2013'.

Also if you are going to tell people to find out the public inquiry info themselves it might help if you include the details needed to do so.

It's a good read for finger pointing for those that don't follow it closely, which might well have been the point, but that isn't the best statement i've ever read for those that do, too many holes in it for my liking. I hope we are a little tighter come day in court time.

All that said its good to finally have a reply, lets see what response we get. Hopefully it will have rattled a few cages and bring people back to the table.

I’m sure there will be.

Letters on the way to all my councillors:

As a concerned citizen of Wakefield and one of your constituents I would like to know what is being done to address the failure of Wakefield MDC to enforce the S106 agreement that was put in place as part of the planning consent granted to Yorkcourt to develop land at Newmarket Lane, Stanley.
I am a Wakefield Trinity fan and so would like to see a new stadium created that would allow the City’s only professional sports club to have a home that will allow them to flourish. I am also a father of two young children and a part-time coach of a local football club, and so I take a greater interest than just the future of Wakefield Trinity. I would like to see the Wakefield district get the Community sports facilities that are seriously lacking. With childhood obesity rates constantly rising we need to encourage children to get more active and take up sports. A community facility would help massively in that respect, giving local clubs and teams somewhere to use. I understand that government funding cuts have hit the district and that has seen facilities closed, but this was an opportunity to create some new facilities to counteract at no cost to the council.
As a Wakefield ratepayer I am now concerned that the lack of action by the planning authority in enforcing the S106 agreement is now going to come back and bite the whole district. I read with dread this morning that Wakefield Trinity are now considering taking this to the High Court. I cannot even guess at the cost that would be involved in that but I can’t imagine it will be a small sum. Who is going to end up paying the court costs involved in that? As a ratepayer I do not want what little money the council do have at their disposal being spent on defending a court case when they have it wholly within their power to stop that happening by just fulfilling their obligation as local planning authority and forcing the developers who are making millions of pounds to do what they promised the Secretary of State.
I look forward to your response on this matter.

I took this to mean we want Newmarket "We simply reply to the Council – deliver the Newmarket Stadium in accordance with your statutory duties"




Surely the commercial rent for a brand new stadium would be more than Belle Vue? If you move from a one bed flat to a four bedroom detached house you'd expect to pay more rent?

This council has held total control over the City for 0ver 40 years. No one has ever dared to question their motives or intention as they have always hidden behind the Labour Party flag.

We are all aware of the stench of Newmarket because it affects us all. However this may only be the tip of the iceberg, what has gone on in all those years with other developers that we no nothing about ??

In my opinion legal action is needed. I also believe that strong representation should be made to the government to put this inept council under special measures. They did the same with Rotherham and Doncaster and in my eyes this lot are no better. I would also like auditors and forensic accountants employed to examine all their past records as I have lost all trust in their honesty and credibility.

Councils and it's members can be replaced. Trinity cannot. 110% behind MC and The Ckub whatever it takes.

But weren't the statutory duties not enforcable until after the trigger point which has never been reached? They could have done more yes but that is a different argument rather than statutory requirements. The land is still mostly undeveloped.

And yes you would THINK the rent would be more but unless you KNOW that to be the case then you can't claim it to be so.

A legal line has now been drawn, statements need to be tight as a drum to avoid slip ups. There is too much at stake for them not to be.

‘My greatest concern is for the fans’ – M Hussain

In the age of high net worth individuals where more is never enough, I for one don't believe him.

100% support from me and mine.

Congratulations to MC and CB for making this public.

#UPTHETRIN

Well done mc and cb

I'm completely behind you on this

This is exactly the action needed, so I guess the next step is the council do what they promised or we are going to court !

I hope the genuine threat of action is what finally leads to something getting built without ever getting as far as the courtroom. Usually in these cases it does to save face, hassle and money. I believe it is the most likely outcome from here and the only one that will actually mean a stadium gets built before we get the push from superleague.

This seems to be going back to fundamentals.
Who was responsible for ensuring the s106 was fit for purpose?
Who accepted the unilateral undertaking?
This may be where the council messed up. With the SoS being involved they seemed to feel they were relieved of their duties. Maybe they sleepwalked into this deal and honestly felt it was nothing to do with them.
It seems like the legal case may be based on the LPA's failure to ensure community benefit from the planning gain.

Let's also not forget what they have done re the Cas s106 and the benefit to a private entity that deal offers whilst at the same time saying the Newmarket s106 was nothing to do with them until recently when national media exposure forced them to make it look like they were trying to do something.

There is also the "missing" legal advice around allowing newcold not to count towards the trigger point

Usually in these cases........
It's hardly a daily occurance is it!

Just try to be positive and support the club
Negativity will get us no where

Forgive me for getting the impression that whatever the club does you always seem to want to have a little dig and search for a little bit of fault. I may be totally wrong and will give you the benefit of the doubt. Therefore....

Can you tell me what possible reason the the council could give in order to justify all the Newcold development not being part of the trigger area.
Bearing in mind they have admitted in writing to Mary Creagh that this agreement was reached between, Roney,Wallhead and WALKER. IN a closed room with no minutes and have also failed to give any reasons for their actions.

Do you also accept it is extremely reasonable to suspect that if a further development is planned then the council will adapt the same policy. Their past actions alone would suggest they have clearly demonstrated they have no intention for a stadium to be built on Newmarket.

Regarding the rent I am led to believe that the club have asked for specific details. The architects of the Belle Vue scheme have failed to answer and I am sure they have not concocted a figure themselves. How can you deal in such a shoddy way with a financial situation such as that. If all you get in varying ball park figures how can the club be nailed down to the specific details.

I hope this helps.

Maybe you could provide professional oversight to the barrister, just to make sure he's got all his ducks in a row beforehand? Alternatively, and this is from someone who readily acknowledges to being a victim of above average syndrome, you could stop pretending to be an expert on everything?

I think everyone is aware that they (York C, council etc.) had no intention of ever reaching the "trigger point" while ever a club by the name of Wakefield Trinity are in existence in the top flight. hence I presume, little need to mention that particular red herring.

Got told today that the land at Newmarket is worth 80 million to York court so greedy is a under statement

Don't need to pretend.



No in all seriousness you’re right, i'll step back from the forum, i realise having views that might not necessarily 100% fit with with the status quo and is scorned upon and a united front needs to be seen right now. Lets hope the club come through the other side with potentialy the biggest and most important win of its history. Good luck to all involved. Go get 'em!

Just one question, anyone know of the boxing day game is still at Belle Vue?

Quote ="drdnght"Looking at the Wakefield Express article they have published the whole statement minus 1 sentence... Which sentence.. "We are aware that the Tigers will own the freehold of their stadium at a transfer cost of £1." www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8844761 #ExpressCasFans'" To me that confirms that the WE are pushing the narrative of Box and co. I mean why would you leave that line out?

Quote ="drdnght"Looking at the Wakefield Express article they have published the whole statement minus 1 sentence... Which sentence.. "We are aware that the Tigers will own the freehold of their stadium at a transfer cost of £1." www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8844761 #ExpressCasFans'" To me that confirms that the WE are pushing the narrative of Box and co. I mean why would you leave that line out?

You would have to expect when the land went into brown belt the value would increased significantly not to mention the value increase for land banking since 2011.

"The time is always right to do what is right"
Martin Luther King jr
Up the Trin

Whether you post here or not is a matter of supreme indifference to me; my issue is that you appear to have cast yourself as a renaissance polymath with expertise that goes way beyond opinion - and that's just annoying enough for me to feel a need to point it out.

Excellent response from the club and once again Carter look's like the only one in this debacle with any class.
WMDC and the gaggle of chancers have behaved and are still behaving quite appallingly.

If there is any justice, the whole lot of them should end up in the stock's at City Limits and passers by could then show them just what they think.

Any protests planned ?

Good luck with the legal action, one thing about planning law is it is a complicated area with so many sections and sub-sections it blows even the experts minds. There is every chance either side could win or lose the case purely on a relatively minor technicality, no matter how solid their case looks. It is a pain to be honest and they usually drag on way longer than they should. I'll certainly be an interested spectator from afar.