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| Quote ="vastman"
I do think we need a special signing though. Roberts adds so much class to Castleford. I love Finn and Miller is a live wire but a real magic man like a Solomona, now that would be something.'"
I think we need a class signing as well. There's no doubt that we have a team of very good players but there is another step up for so called 'marquee' players. We need one IMO if we are to progress further.
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| I know you have mentioned Grix and Wood as being key players missing last night, but is there only me that thought we missed Arundel big style if not for his defence let alone his strong running .
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| OK MCB defence is suspect but Miller was no better ,missed Arundel and wood
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| Fully agree with Trinity 1315.
With the increase in the cap and extra marquee player, I think for us to consolidate or even go to the next level, another 1-2 quality signings are needed.
Other teams around and below us will be
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I know you have mentioned Grix and Wood as being key players missing last night, but is there only me that thought we missed Arundel big style if not for his defence let alone his strong running .'"
Been saying it all year martin Arundel is so underrated in both defence & attack we seem more solid when he plays pity chris & john don't see it that way thou.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"I think we need a class signing as well. There's no doubt that we have a team of very good players but there is another step up for so called 'marquee' players. We need one IMO if we are to progress further.'"
I've heard a rumour that we have been talking to Todd Carney
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I know you have mentioned Grix and Wood as being key players missing last night, but is there only me that thought we missed Arundel big style if not for his defence let alone his strong running .'"
Yep. I've always thought that he's our best centre personally.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I know you have mentioned Grix and Wood as being key players missing last night, but is there only me that thought we missed Arundel big style if not for his defence let alone his strong running .'"
Wood was a huge miss.
Arundal was a miss because he's probably our best centre and one can only imagine how much he'd have wanted to show his old club a thing or two.
That said, he is injured, it's how they replaced him that seems to baffle most people. Tupou for Arundal for me was a more like for like.
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| I've heard a rumour that Carney has signed fir next season
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| Quote ="4foxsake"I've heard a rumour that Carney has signed fir next season'"
Todd, Justin or Brian?
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| Quote ="vastman"Wood was a huge miss.
Arundal was a miss because he's probably our best centre and one can only imagine how much he'd have wanted to show his old club a thing or two.
That said, he is injured, it's how they replaced him that seems to baffle most people. Tupou for Arundal for me was a more like for like.'"
Agree. With at leasts 3 key players out in Wood, Grix and Arundal, we were always going to reshuffle the deck. But with some of the vack up we have it shouldn't have hit us that hard.
The obvious misatle imo is to put MCB to wing, where he's really impressed and drop Billy back into ceneter, where hes actually dpne really well at times this season.
I though it was the obvious way to go before the game, firstly because like I said, MCB has proved his place & pace at wing, at not so much. Tupou is a bigger meter marker on the edges and teams always have to put 2/3 men to take him down, which could have provided the space needed so MCB or whover to expolt, plus he's a better tackler.
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| Quote ="4foxsake"I've heard a rumour that Carney has signed fir next season'"
This seems to be a rife rumour!
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| "Todd Carney is coming" Sounds like a good name for a fanzine.
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| Could be a good addition if true, especially if he can stay on the field long enough.
A trio of Miller, Carney of Randell, with Wood and Finn as back up could be good.
Carney is also a capable goal kicker and kicks a fair share of 40/20s, which the latter is something we struggle in doing.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Could be a good addition if true, especially if he can stay on the field long enough.
A trio of Miller, Carney of Randell, with Wood and Finn as back up could be good.
Carney is also a capable goal kicker and kicks a fair share of 40/20s, which the latter is something we struggle in doing.'"
It's one of those if he fit's job. He's past his best let's not kid ourselves but so was Ben Roberts when he signed for Cas and for me he adds a lot of special plays for them. However if he buys in and gets a bit of passion back he could be another Tim Smith (at his best). He's not world class any more but he can be class in the right frame of mind in be right set up.
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| Would also challenge Miller to up his consistency : fabulous against Leeds , poor against Cas. Reminds me of Ben Jeffries who could be brilliant one week and not interested the next. What I do especially like about Miller is that when he is challenged he doesn't half come out and try and prove a point. When he is named on the bench he seems to hate it and then fires in when he comes on. If we were able or have signed Carney we would have Wood, Finn, Randell, Miller and Carney all pushing for starting roles and that I think will bring the best out of Miller.
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| Further to the comments on this thread regarding Todd Carney.
According to the Salford forum, he's going back to Australia.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Further to the comments on this thread regarding Todd Carney.
According to the Salford forum, he's going back to Australia.'"
Are you talking about the article posted by SMH? Just basically states Cronulla are to settle there legal battle with him by settlement which opens the door for him to potentially be registered in the NRL at another club. Even then he would still have to be apply for a registration with the NRLs integrity unit, which isn't a given he would get the green light given his record.
With an abundance of talent in the half's over there, I think the best he can hope for is a back up/playing most his time in the reserve grade.. Not too sure a club would go through all the trouble of registering a player that's not got much to offer them. Who knows though! If he was available I would certainly make a play for him.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"If he was available I would certainly make a play for him.'"
I'm ambivalent - he's a proven idiot with very poor judgement about his own behaviour; and seems unmoved by being given multiple chances by various clubs. And on the field, he's patchy at best.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm ambivalent - he's a proven idiot with very poor judgement about his own behaviour; and seems unmoved by being given multiple chances by various clubs. And on the field, he's patchy at best.'"
I'm even less enthused by him than that.
He's one of the most over-hyped players to ever join the SL. Like Tim Smith but without the good stuff.
I'm (yet) to see him put in a first class game ever in the Northern Hemisphere, certainly a million miles away from his NRL days. It could be coaching or his team mates to blame.
However the most likely explanations are that he either can't be bothered or he just can't do it anymore. The former makes him a risk signing the latter makes him a disaster. He has it or at least he had it and if any club can bring it back we are it but honestly I'd far prefer us to run with Christian Ackroyd next year. It's a risk but no bigger risk than Carney and should it pay off a million times more valuable for the future.
I know one thing for certain, if Carney were English he'd probably be at Barrow by now but as ever we remain in awe of all things Aussie.
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| Another idiot who will end up letting us down at a crucial time. Please leave we'll alone. I think I would rather stick with Williams who may not be in the same class as Carney but fits in and seems a decent human being.
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| Now that Dobson is going home to Aus Carney may be required at Salford to partner Lou
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Another idiot who will end up letting us down at a crucial time. Please leave we'll alone. I think I would rather stick with Williams who may not be in the same class as Carney but fits in and seems a decent human being.'"
What makes you think we have the option to keep Williams? All this talk about whether or not the club should give him another deal or not, with the increased NRL cap its highly likely that he has opportunities over in Aus and with the way he was talking when he first joined us that's where he wants to be.
I know Carney is not of the same standard he was, haven't seen much of him at Salford and I know he has been used a lot as a bit part player earlier in the season, coming off the bench so cant really comment on how he has been playing. But once he settled at Catalan I thought he had some very good games, his game management and kicking game stick out for me. If we can find better available right now then id say go for them but I don't think there is.
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| Carney is not the sort of player we want at the club imho
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"Carney is not the sort of player we want at the club imho'"
You have to wonder why on the face of it why Catalans made no attempt to keep him, admittedly he hasn't had much of a chance at Salford because of the form of Dobson and Lui, can we afford to take the risk and pay the wages you would imagine he'd be wanting, without any guarantee he wouldn't let us down both on or off the field.
Dobson is leaving at the end of the season, so if Carney leaves as well you have to ask yourself why hasn't he been persuaded to stay at Salford.
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