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| Quote ="TheButcher"What else am I supposed to judge him on?
The signing was one that mystified Salford fans when it happened. It was probably to get an extra body into our small squad due to serious injury to Mossop. Turns out, he isn't very good, at least in the time with us that he's played. I'm not one for slagging-off players when they leave as seems to be the norm. Check back on any of my previous posts regarding ex-Salford players. Try MCB here on your own site.
I've got a lot of time for Wakey as I have said for years on here. Just being honest and optimistic for you and him. A change of scenery might bring the best out in him and you'll have yourself a decent player, but then again it might not. Just be prepared for the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised if it's different.'"
Pretty much what I'm saying you've nothing to judge him on neither have I. Hence I'm not sure why you bothered tbh. I'm sure your being helpful but in this case there really isn't much for anyone to go on.
Looks a real punt from us but I doubt it's costing much. Enjoy your season by the way you've done well.
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| Quote ="vastman"Most players who've put in a stint carry a knock when they come off especially props - not necessarily an injury just the inevitable seizing of the joints after a tough run out.He may be injured but I wouldn't assume it due to a limp.'"
Vastman If you re read the original post it talks about how Chris Chester stated England was carrying a injury (not limping due to a stint on the pitch)
You really should read the posts properly before making comments
Daddycool thank you for the update on England
He's clearly giving his all when he's not 100% fit
As fans we can't ask for more
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| Fixture list is fairly kind to us at the minute with eight days between the Cas and Widnes games, then a nine day gap to Saints followed by 11-14 days until our first eights game. Should be enough time in between games to keep playing players like Huby and England but you can never have enough props and if Allgood is back at some point then it will be nice to have quite a few to choose from and hopefully not run Huby or England into the ground.
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| There will surely have been input too from two of our senior players who will know him well from playing together for Ireland...that makes me think we might have got a decent one!
How many players over recent times have not performed for Salford but been excellent for us...Casey, Gledhill, Korkidas, Smith, just a few who come straight to mind...then add the ones already mentioned at the club now who are doing great!
He's at a good age for a prop with his best years to come in the not too distant future...signed til the end of the season could well mean he could be playing to impress to earn a contract for next season and beyond...
With the feel good factor around the place and the spirit amongst the players that is always talked about by new players...I think he could be one of the Wakey specials...got the profile to go great for us...hope he does...
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| The press release on Hasson mentions creating competition in the pack because he can also play second row. A lot of footage of him on the site we are not allowed to mention shows him playing at 12 and looking a decent player. I saw him in the 2013 World Cup against England at Huddersfield and he carried the ball well. Finn and Grix will know him well.
Only 25 and he doesn't seem to have been given a chance at Salford. He is a Trinity type player with something to prove and a longer contract to play for.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Hope he goes well for you guys. He was pretty awful for us and a strange signing when we made it. Awful is maybe too strong. Average is probably better. Different environments bring out different things in players so hopefully he'll go well for you, just don't expect anything exciting from him.
He is British born but will still count on the quota as he's non-fed trained.'"
Very strange signing. A successful NRL player getting signed up to a then slightly above average Super League side. A real head scratcher that one !
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| Even if not been playing well. We have a habit of getting a bit more out of forwards
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| If hes as bad as ben jones bishop and mason caton brown....will take that
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| I think the question about Hasson is whether he signed up at Salford for longer than this season?
As by the reports, at the time, Salford were having forward issues.
If those forwards came back to fitness quicker than expected, then Hasson's transition may not be as smooth as expected?
Is he now playing for a contract?
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| I'll trust CC's judgement. He's not let me down so far.
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| Quote ="eastardsley"If hes as bad as ben jones bishop and mason caton brown....will take that'"
The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.'"
I'm pretty sure our coach will know exactly what he's got, as things stand he probably won't get in the side anyway but we have one prop out injured and another struggling with a heel problem, maybe he'll get a chance to show what he's capable of, atm he is here till the end of the season so he's not really a gamble but the opportunity's there for him, you never know Chester might be able to do with him what your club could not, surely you'll agree with that with Jones Bishop, Caton Brown, and Ashurst being far better players since joining us from Salford.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.'"
So you can tell all that after a player has played 4 games.....your in the wrong job pal
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| Quote ="eastardsley"So you can tell all that after a player has played 4 games.....your in the wrong job pal'"
I've watched him in the NRL when he got a game to. Same kind of story. I'm not in the wrong job, it's just fairly obvious.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I've watched him in the NRL when he got a game to. Same kind of story. I'm not in the wrong job, it's just fairly obvious.'"
Time will tell.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I'm pretty sure our coach will know exactly what he's got, as things stand he probably won't get in the side anyway but we have one prop out injured and another struggling with a heel problem, maybe he'll get a chance to show what he's capable of, atm he is here till the end of the season so he's not really a gamble but the opportunity's there for him, you never know Chester might be able to do with him what your club could not, surely you'll agree with that with Jones Bishop, Caton Brown, and Ashurst being far better players since joining us from Salford.'"
I agree with you regarding CC. It isn't a gamble, it's an opportunity for him. By the looks of it you have picked him up for the same reasons that we did. I disagree with you regarding the other ex-Salford players. They were all very good for us in their time with us. I'd say you've got more out of Ashurst than we did, so fair play, but he was solid for us in his time. MCB and BJB were both very good for us as they are for you. The difference now is that they are playing in a top four club (How nice is it to hear that about Wakey eh? ) rather than a bottom of the table side that Salford were when we had them.
Anyway, good luck to him and yourselves. Great to see the unfashionable clubs of Salford and Wakey in the top four. Long may it continue.
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| I really hope James Hasson reads this thread...hope he gets a run out against St.Helens if there are injuries to England & Huby.
He has a contract to play for aswell as a place in the Ireland squad for the 2017 World Cup down under......
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| Quote ="asmadasa"I really hope James Hasson reads this thread...hope he gets a run out against St.Helens if there are injuries to England & Huby.
He has a contract to play for aswell as a place in the Ireland squad for the 2017 World Cup down under......'"
So do I.
Would be nice to see him with a bit of grit and determination.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"So do I.
Would be nice to see him with a bit of grit and determination.'"
If we had based our opinion of most of our squad on there first four appearances we,d not still have two thirds of them.
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| TheButcher has been on our forum quite a lot and always gives a balanced viewpoint on what he sees.
I can't believe, all of a sudden he is the devil incarnate for giving his opinion on a player that he's seen more than us!
I like Salford as they are similar to us, perennial strugglers but now they have a good squad and shaking the big boys up like us.
Can only be good for the game.
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| I agree Fickle
We get a lot of trolls from other clubs but TheButcher is always a welcome poster.
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| When I saw that Salford had picked him up I was a little jealous as I think he's a good player!
Hope he now proves me right in a Trinity shirt!
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree Fickle
We get a lot of trolls from other clubs but TheButcher is always a welcome poster.'"
His integrity isn't the issue so why are you making it so?
The question is can you seriously judge a player on four games, I can't. Evidence suggests no on on this forum ca - see Tupou as latest example.
So an you judge a player on four games?
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| I thought Jarrad Hickey gave us enough info after his first appearance.
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