No

Let me explain that better.

It looks like Richard Kelly has left his role at Wakefield Trinity.
I don't know why.

It's OK to discuss the consequences to Trinity, possible replacements even how well the job was done as you would with a player but it's not fair to guess or draw conclusions about why he left.
He's a real person and it's his job. Same for any of us. And it's covered by the AUP so please don't cross the line to make it personal.
I don't think that was anyone's intention so far.... I just want to make my point clear.....as I clearly didn't first time.

Why not, I believe this used to be a forum



I think the fact that I said I was guessing should be enough.I may be well off, but I'm not suggesting I'm spot on either.

What next, can't we 'guess' the result for the Hull game

Richard Kelly is a person, of course.

David Fifita's wife is a person.
Scott Moore is a person.
Richard Agar is a person.
James Elston is a person.

Multiple threads about these plus many, many others full of speculation, conjecture and rumour. What's the difference?

Not the same Vasty. The fact that you are guessing is the problem.
He's a person. Let's see what the details are first.

Exactly, if true he's now a private person unattached to the club and therefore unless he or the club decides to make public why he's left then people should respect that instead of speculating on private matters, just my opinion really.

I have read some crap in my time, but what has previous jobs roles ect at Wakefield got to do with Kelly leaving ? He has made a massive, enormous difference to the steaming pile left by Ryan badge kisser Hudson.
He has brought in players who wouldnt have sniffed at Wakefield 2 years ago, brought a fantastic Apps system for the players, and worked 60 plus hours every week. I have a lad here, and without his support he would have packed in by now, and thats a fact. I have no idea why he has left, but I do know that as a development and talent id person, he is the best at the Club, hands down. In the last 3 years we have had a massive turnover of coaches at Academy and scholar level, and it needs to stop.
Wigan the biggest and by far the best club in the Uk with regard to Talent ID and development of young players have not got there by chance. The Wigan way is simple, get the best coaches, ther most dedicated, and try to make sure they themselves are Wigan through and through, and we now loose someone who if you cut him in half he would be red white and blue.
I can only speak for myself and my son, but thanks Richard for everything you have done for us, and many others in your way too short stay at the club.

Shame he's gone, if he has, as he seemed to be doing a great job and genuinely cares about the club. The reason why he left will ultimately come out in the wash but hopefully his replacement will be equally as dedicated as Richard in developing the young players.

Yes, shame if he's has gone.

So why are you on here, do you read newspapers? Since when has speculating on anything been wrong. It's only wrong when you dress it up as fact, as if you know the truth - I didn't. We may as well give up on personal freedom if that's the level we are dropping to. Just my opinion whilst it's still allowed. Kept it t one paragraph for you if that helps quoting me.

No, you over reacted and can't admit you were wrong. This is not RK's private life, this is an issue regarding the clubs future - no different to a player or a coach. So if Chester just picked up sticks and left you'd allow no speculation?

Just stop Vasty. It's not all about you.
I've explained why it's not the same.

Make no wonder this site has become a ghost town, why bother if we can't debate something, fwiw I'm with vastman on this, you where completely over the top and made yourself look like a certain Mr Vause.

What you blubbering on about now


Oh and if it's possible which I doubt, why don'y you keep yer gob shut until you know the truth.

Well right now there are 38 people logged in and another 238 viewing the Wakefield Forum.
The ghost town comment or the 'this used to be a forum' comment only ever come up when something happens you don't like.
It will be ever so.

But in this case I have seen no discussion.
I have seen many people commenting me included, whether they think it's a good thing or a bad thing.
The problem occurred when someone "guessed" about the persons ability to handle the job.

If you say your kid was in the scholarship and did well. That's fine. If you hated him because you think the scholarship isn't working and can explain why....that's fine too.
What I don't think is fair is a comment with no fact or basis implying that the reason for leaving was on Kelly.

If you feel you have something to discuss, go for it.
Be respectful of the individual and I'm sure there won't be a problem. I'll tell you if there is.
What exactly would you like to discuss?

I'm not actually sure what was so upsetting about my comment "errrrm why guess?"

And I don't know who Mr Vause is but I'll live with it.

You young'uns

Prob best you don't find out who he is then. You will feel rather insulted!

Mr Vause was commonly referred to as "Hitler" Hope this helps.

Oh I see. I thought I was educated better than that. I will go revise the subject immediately

You can bully your little group of pals all day long but don't try it on with me. Nobody and let me make this clear nobody needs you permission to speak - clear!

As it happens I don't care why he's left all that much or if I ever find out. If you could be bothered to read rather than carry on with you're silly vendetta you'd know. Mild speculation on a public forum regarding a public figure in a public position relative to the game of RL to which the forum is dedicated is totally legitimate in any normal persons book - end of.

Right back at you...

Ironic as the last complaint was that I was too soft :/

Explains a lot - also not sure you could if you knew.

Why don't you bring your private life on here to debate, if you agree with vastman so much you could put him in charge not that you could stop him anyway, he'll rake over your business like the expert he is when it comes to shoving his nose in under the guise of opinion, he even tells you how to present your post, and if your really lucky he'll put his result on a points system to show you where you've gone wrong.