The main reason the halfbacks are not working is that every play looks as though it's got to go through Grix ,nearly every play went to the side he was on,at the end of the day he is at full back so this is not is job, another reson we look slower in attack than last year is Max Jowit is not at fullback ,he as got far more speed than Grix and was abell to make half a gap before slipping the ball out plus it offset Finns lack of speed.The plus points from the game was the tackling and I thought C Brown should be given a nother go at centre

William I'm not going to spend all night on here defending your petty remarks, either talk a bit of sense or come off the dam thing.

I also thought the ref was poor having said that he is a Wigan lad I have been told.

Nevertheless those two first half trys we let in cost us and both should have been stopped, especially the first one. It looked like O'loughlin crashed through 4 x 10 year olds not SL players. Give scores as soft as that away and you make life hard.

Saints won Wire won Catalans are winning. Warrington is a must win to maintain some breathing space. Leigh and Widnes LOOK nailed on for the middle eights as do Huddersfield. Don't want to be dropping points when teams below us start gaining momentum.

I don't need some sad act making a fictitious relative to "defend my remarks".

You do when you keep posting such ridiculous horse crap!

Right, we're slipping down the table, people are blaming the ref for today, and I'm the one talking horsecrap.

And those same people blaming the ref probably ridiculed Wane's mysterious virus excuse last year!

We lost today because we couldn't score, despite all our possession in the opposition 20.
The ref made some absolutely shocking calls, which are even worse when you watch them back on replay.
A game where we could and probably should have won.
Despite finishing only 6 points behind, I've come away from BV the most disappointed of any game so far, well brassed off.
The penalties on tackle 4 and tackle 5 were just plain dumb. Really, really poor and 2 points gifted to Wigan.

You really are silly.

I THINK WE GOT A COUPLE OF HARSH DECISIONS,I ALSO THINK WE LACK CREATIVITY ON WIGANS LINE,AND I ALSO THINK THE 2 CENTRES PLAYED O,K BUT I THINK WE MISSED ARUNDAL AND TOUPOU,AS

Comedy of errors today.

Huby stinker. Finn missing George Williams, no conversions, ball steal on tackle five AGAIN! . Johnstones steady conversion from dangerous winger to extra prop (Kear?). Headless chicken Miller kicking when he should run and running when he should kick. Kirmond, kills every move even the last 10 seconds of the game. Constantly driving up the bloody middle (Kear?)

Haven't felt so peed off for ages. Worse performance than Cas game. Couldn't get out of the ground quick enough.

Given me a right fecking headache!

Why are you shouting?

Typical second game of the Easter period for me. Both teams looked fatigued although of the 2 for much of the game Trinity seemed to have the most energy but couldn't convert it.

For me the ref wasn't great but I don't think you can blame him for the loss. Failure to convert the pressure after Wigan repeatedly coughed up the ball and pace from Escare and Marshall that Trinity couldn't match proved to be decisive.

Can't fault either team for effort but both lacked a bit of quality at crucial times preventing either team kicking on to a bigger win.

Coming up next we have; Warrington (A), Catalans (H), Leigh (A), Widnes (MW), Huddersfield (H)

In reality, we should be looking at winning at least three of these games to stay within touching distance of the Top 8

John, can I ask you your thoughts on the penalty given against MCB after he beat Escare 1 on 1 and passed to an unmarked team mate 3 metres out for a certain try?

Also, the penalty against BJB for offside after he pinned Marshall down a yard in from the corner flag, that penalty amongst a couple like it allowed Wigan to break Wakefield's grip on the momentum of the match and releive all the pressure on their line.

He said the 1-1 was a ball steal after the tackle was made on the floor. I disagree but that's what he said.

With all the doom and gloom you've got to realise we are disappointed not to beat the current champions. That's a sign of how far we have come and deserves recognition.

It's also worth remembering that although our attack was stunted with a couple of decisions from ref but mainly us coughing up good ball, Wigan couldn't score against us either when they were camped on our line. The defense was on the whole improved today bar a couple of incidents.
I feared for MCB in the centre but he did ok. Frightened them a couple of times and did ok in defense too against big opposition.

I'm disappointed but time to move on to Warrington.

Hey, Wigan have won their Cup Final and good luck to them on their way to London!

The Wigan backs looked out of sorts again today, and as we went through the middle, we met your big units there!!.. Made for a dull game, only enlivened, for me, by the crowd baying at the ref for some iffy decisions.

You looked the more energetic ball in hand, thought the result flattered us..

Good luck with the season, always fun to visit Belle Vue

Looked harsh from where I was (in the North Stand) then looked on the screen and whilst it was an insanely tight call I think it was a very good call. I've not rewatched it yet but it looked like Escare caught the ball and landed with it all be it not on his feet. MCB has his hands on him as they hit the ground completing the tackle and pulls the ball free after the tackle was complete to the letter of the law. Millisecond call but probably a right one.

Can't comment about the offside as I was behind the sticks (unlike most others in the North Stand who seem to have unbelievable ability to call offside and forward passes even when the game is being played 10m from the hospitality boxes)

I personally think a draw would have been a fair result but some silly play late in the tackle count was very costly at times for Trinity. I enjoy watching Fafita but he is prone to the odd brain fart, but that is part and parcel of the type of player he is.

Before the game and even at half time, I honestly thought we were going to win that game but for me it seemed like every time we started to exert any pressure the ref gave them either a penalty or the decision in a 50/50 play. He gave us nothing.
I am gutted that we lost, but to consider that it was Wiggin that we were playing and that we only lost by 6 points shows just how far we have come with this group of players. Once again, the effort was there (superb in defence) but it is just that killer instinct that we lack.
We are missing the mid-field General that we had with Scott Moore and I have to agree that Miller appeared to take all the wrong options today, which obviously didn't help our cause either. We certainly didn't miss Williams, who I think has been a massive let down so far.
If we can tweek a few things for Saturday, then the Warrington game is definitely winnable.

Miller took a big hit when he clashed with Hadley (who went off)
There was no one to replace Miller so he stuck it out. Arm hanging down for much of second half so although not his best it is understandable.

Wigan also targeted him and Wood in particular throughout running the bigger men straight at him some of the Wigan forwards actively ran out of there way to find both of these guys in particular.

Personally I think given they grant really been starting they did ok. Miller looked more comfortable playing the off the cuff player off Finn.

Wood for me did a lot of the tough stuff but for me he just isn't a "starting hooker". That is the missing player at the moment for me which has probably been born out of the Moore situation.

Valid point PT...had forgotten about that, I'll cut him a bit of slack for today then, but we all know that our half-backs are not the most creative in the League and need to start creating some tries. This could be the difference between top 8 and Middle 8's come the end of the season.

Ooooh but I think you do!

I think the team was no better than Friday, they were just up against weaker opposition hence the damage wasn't as severe.
It was the same poor decision making and blunted attack with a bit of iffy reffin thrown in.
Don't think the reffing really made much of a difference, our form of only a few games ago would have made that irrelevant.
Can't take anything away from Wigan they're running on fumes at the moment, it was a gritty hard yards performance from them, they're not looking like champs though.
We have to tie in these key positions 6 7 9, Grix is doing his job well but having to fill in the f-ups too much.
I gotta say, we looked jaded, but that's a 3 day turnaround for you.
Warrington next, they've got fire in their bellys, and they're line speed junkies, that's where it'll be won or lost.
I don't really wanna be talking about defense, but with key attacking positions misfiring, defense has to win the game...