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| does anyone know how the area is worked out?. (ie. is it just the buildings area or the entire site footprint including car parks and HGV parking etc. ?)
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Sadly the size is relatively small
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From what i have been told of the square footage, i would not consider the size "relatively small" at all,and i worked in the building industry for a very long time.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"From what i have been told of the square footage, i would not consider the size "relatively small" at all,and i worked in the building industry for a very long time.'"
About 16'000sqft?
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| Can it be 22thou sq metres wide please then do we get a ground
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"About 16'000sqft?
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Hope you mean 16,000 m2
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| Is the funding for your stadium secured?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Is the funding for your stadium secured?'"
Ask Yorkcourt.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Ask Yorkcourt.'"
Is that a no then?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Is that a no then?'"
Like I said, ask Yorkcourt (or whatever name they're trading under now). The Council seem to be still offering £2m towards the project. If they don't then the trust and club will have to find to cash but the bulk will come from the developer. Whether they have it or not (or are willing to spend it) is a battle for another day.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Like I said, ask Yorkcourt (or whatever name they're trading under now). The Council seem to be still offering £2m towards the project. If they don't then the trust and club will have to find to cash but the bulk will come from the developer. Whether they have it or not (or are willing to spend it) is a battle for another day.'"
Was it in planning conditions?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Was it in planning conditions?'"
Supposed to have been, but they're all up in the air at the moment.
If it all goes to plan, then the requirements for the stadium are; (A) that the developer can build and occupy 60,000sq.m of industrial units before they build the stadium, and (B) that £2m must be contributed by council/trust/club towards the build.
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| At the great risk of embarrassing myself by my naivete but as the proposed Newmarket ground is a community stadium for the benefit of 330,000 people, is it eligible for partial funding from the Lottery once the 60,000sqm criteria has been met.??
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Hope you mean 16,000 m2'"
I do!
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| Quote ="Redscat"At the great risk of embarrassing myself by my naivete but as the proposed Newmarket ground is a community stadium for the benefit of 330,000 people, is it eligible for partial funding from the Lottery once the 60,000sqm criteria has been met.??'"
There's lots of funding channels which can bring in some money, the lottery probably being one of them. The issue is that all of these gunning streams won't offer anywhere near enough to fully fund a stadium so we need to have the developer hit the Sq.m first. Funding applications are also much more likely to be successful if the development is ready to go instead of asking for funding for a project which may/may not happen
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| Thanks for that Egg Banjo. I was thinking more in terms subsidising all or part of the £2,000,000 should WMDC renege in any way.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Thanks for that Egg Banjo. I was thinking more in terms subsidising all or part of the £2,000,000 should WMDC renege in any way.'"
Funding streams are quickly drying up which could become a problem. Lots of European funding will disappear over the next couple of years and they ringfenced quite a bit of money for communities. We'd need to get smart about what we offer to maximise funding streams available. We'd need to provide multiple education opportunities for young people, community sports and community activities such as dementia cafes and walking football, a rugby league museum (or at least a local area museum) and arts facilities/installations to access Arts funding. The money is out there, but the trust will really need to diversify what we have available in the stadium to maximise other funding
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"About 16'000sqft?
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The actual plan of the H B Clark site, which has been re drawn because it impinged on the area listed for the Community Stadium i have been told is 170,000 sq.ft. which equates to 15,790 sq.mtres. Whether or not all this planned site is "B8 Warehousing and Distribution space" as required towards the trigger point i can't say for definite. Looking at the requirements of what Clarks need i would imagine the majority of it is, but until the plans are in the public domain who can say for sure.
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| So in rounded down to the 000Sqm figures
Newcold One - 22,000Sqm
Newcold 2 - 23,000Sqm
HB Clark - 15,000qm
TOTAL - 60,000Sqm (rounded down)
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So in rounded down to the 000Sqm figures
Newcold One - 22,000Sqm
Newcold 2 - 23,000Sqm
HB Clark - 15,000qm
TOTAL - 60,000Sqm (rounded down)'"
If only that were so.
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
"Make it so Mr Sulu"
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| I thought only one part of newcold had been agreed to count?
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
It seems to be so or have I misread the Council statement that the existing Newcold building will now contribute and the new building for which i'm told ground works are currently being prepared Will also count. If The Clarks Brewery building is as big as suggested then surely it will get us to the 60,000 m² tipping point
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
You don't seem to share our optimism that this is what will actually happen?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It seems to be so or have I misread the Council statement that the existing Newcold building will now contribute and the new building for which i'm told ground works are currently being prepared Will also count. If The Clarks Brewery building is as big as suggested then surely it will get us to the 60,000 m² tipping point'"
Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
OK I stand corrected.
I was lead to believe that the first Newcold building was around 22,500m² and the second one was slightly bigger
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