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| Win the Euro millions and buy some land and try get planning past WMDC then wait for years of leaping over the hurdles they place in front of us. Once Councillor Box has died of old age and Castleford MDC has removed any memory of Wakefield, you may be allowed to build a stadium. If your lucky.
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| Quote ="harrogate""Load of clap !
I read in today's trade press that Mr Carter says all the fans he speaks to are happy with a move from Belle Vue
He must be living on another planet .. to us, or is it we are on Mars? Everyone we speak to think the opposite.
Perhaps if we call for a one minutes applause this Thursdays televised match on ten minutes after kick off for all who want to stay would give a idea of the strength of feeling of the fans.
Please Mr Carter tell us what we have to do to stay.'"
You could try persuading the millionaires lurking in the shadows to come out and buy the club now Ted/Farrar/Glover etc have long gone.
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| First buy the ground off the new owner who will want several million for it, he is going to develop it, so will want a good return on his investment in order not to develop it, I would think that a figure of say £ 5 million may just get get it, then spend another million just to reach minimum standards, also have another 6 or 7 million to bring the ground to anything like respectable.
Why would anyone in their right mind spend that money on BV. Its just not going to happen. The council could force Yorkcort to honor the 106 and instead of building a new ground at Newmarket Yorkcourt could agree to upgrade BV, but the owner of BV would still have to agree to sell. So we know that the council are not going to enforce the 106, even if they were forced to in court then Yorkcourt have already closed their compnay transferred assets into new holding companies etc etc in order to avoid having to spend one single penny on community facilities, So get real BV is dead, it is an ex Rugby ground, it has ceased, it is no more. Box has won, Yorkcourt with the help of Box have won. Lets get out of Wakefield, get to Dewsbury and start again.
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| Well I and everyone I talk to are happy to leave the death trap that is Belle Vue in its current form. We should have done it last season.
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| Hello is anybody there ? The ground is not fit for purpose mc has no choice
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| Quote ="harrogate""Load of clap !
I read in today's trade press that Mr Carter says all the fans he speaks to are happy with a move from Belle Vue
He must be living on another planet .. to us, or is it we are on Mars? Everyone we speak to think the opposite.
Perhaps if we call for a one minutes applause this Thursdays televised match on ten minutes after kick off for all who want to stay would give a idea of the strength of feeling of the fans.
Please Mr Carter tell us what we have to do to stay.'"
No not happy but understand the reasons why.
What matters now is MC's next move because if he gets it wrong it is probably curtains. But until we know what that move is then there isn't much point of a protest.
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| For a new poster you certainly seem to have an agenda for staying at Belle Vue.
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| I am not happy at leaving BV, but MC has got his hands tied behind his back with new minimum standards and WMDC allowing yhe white monstrosity to be built.
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| I'll merge this with the Belle Vue one as you are posting on both Harrogate
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Quote ="harrogate""Load of clap !
I read in today's trade press that Mr Carter says all the fans he speaks to are happy with a move from Belle Vue
He must be living on another planet .. to us, or is it we are on Mars? Everyone we speak to think the opposite.
Perhaps if we call for a one minutes applause this Thursdays televised match on ten minutes after kick off for all who want to stay would give a idea of the strength of feeling of the fans.
Please Mr Carter tell us what we have to do to stay.'"
Happy to say I still live in Wrenthorpe.
I was sat in the east stand for the Salford game. I probably will for the Leigh game. Come and see me and I'll try to explain the options you could have? Alternatively email me on info@wakefieldtrinity.com
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Quote ="harrogate""Load of clap !
I read in today's trade press that Mr Carter says all the fans he speaks to are happy with a move from Belle Vue
He must be living on another planet .. to us, or is it we are on Mars? Everyone we speak to think the opposite.
Perhaps if we call for a one minutes applause this Thursdays televised match on ten minutes after kick off for all who want to stay would give a idea of the strength of feeling of the fans.
Please Mr Carter tell us what we have to do to stay.'"
Happy to say I still live in Wrenthorpe.
I was sat in the east stand for the Salford game. I probably will for the Leigh game. Come and see me and I'll try to explain the options you could have? Alternatively email me on info@wakefieldtrinity.com
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| I think Wrenthorpe was episode 43 on the original Star Trek series.
I'll miss the old girl but the feeling will drift if I'm able to sit on a nice new seat or stand leaning on a crash barrier with no crumbling concrete.
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| Think most of us would prefer to stay at a "renovated" Belle Vue. But the reality is we can't. It's dropping to bits, unsafe and costing us. The uncertainty is the big factor that's upsetting most people. I've said it once and I'll say it again, you cannot take this out on Michael Carter, to do so is well below the belt.
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| Get thi bag o' cement and shovel and welding torch out Snowie and patch the old girl up agen
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| OK wakey fans please back off from mc give the lad a bloody chance
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| Moving from BV doesn't bother me as such, moving out of Wakefield (permanently) does, and that would includes moving to Featherstone. Anybody who thinks the club will prosper in such circumstances are as deluded as those who think BV is fit for purpose.
Carter sounds he's between a rock and a hard place but I can safely say I'd rather watch Trinity in the championship at BV over watching Trinity in SL playing out of say Dewsbury.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Well I and everyone I talk to are happy to leave the death trap that is Belle Vue in its current form. We should have done it last season.'"
Death Trap!
Nowt like overegging the pudding.
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Quote ="Daddycool"Happy to say I still live in Wrenthorpe.
I was sat in the east stand for the Salford game. I probably will for the Leigh game. Come and see me and I'll try to explain the options you could have? Alternatively email me on info@wakefieldtrinity.com'"
To save time rather than have to possibly tell 1000 supporters the same answer a 1000 times you publish the options once in the public domain. It will save you a lot of typing of e-mails or having your game spoiled by people coming up to ask you the same question.
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I was sat in the east stand for the Salford game. I probably will for the Leigh game. Come and see me and I'll try to explain the options you could have? Alternatively email me on info@wakefieldtrinity.com'"
To save time rather than have to possibly tell 1000 supporters the same answer a 1000 times you publish the options once in the public domain. It will save you a lot of typing of e-mails or having your game spoiled by people coming up to ask you the same question.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"To save time rather than have to possibly tell 1000 supporters the same answer a 1000 times you publish the options once in the public domain. It will save you a lot of typing of e-mails or having your game spoiled by people coming up to ask you the same question.'"
Well that's a first, you showing concern for the chairman.
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Think you get the point its the reason we came on here.
We want to stay at belle vue.
Take Castleford ground as an example .. wooden stand ( our demolished by council) not enough seat, it floods,
by not denigrating the ground and emphasising positives its now called by sky iconic!
So if its not applied to them then we should say No. Not to us, we are staying.
An earlier poster said that cost to stay would be 30k to 100k then its still got to be worth it.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"To save time rather than have to possibly tell 1000 supporters the same answer a 1000 times you publish the options once in the public domain. It will save you a lot of typing of e-mails or having your game spoiled by people coming up to ask you the same question.'"
Fair Point you make.
Perhaps MC could put a brief appraisal of the situation on the club website. Then at least all the remoaners will understand the situation and realise the full extent of the problem as far as staying at BV.
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| Quote ="harrogate"PRINCE BUSTER
Think you get the point its the reason we came on here.
We want to stay at belle vue.
Take Castleford ground as an example .. wooden stand ( our demolished by council) not enough seat, it floods,
by not denigrating the ground and emphasising positives its now called by sky iconic!
So if its not applied to them then we should say No. Not to us, we are staying.
An earlier poster said that cost to stay would be 30k to 100k then its still got to be worth it.'"
Mannie, is that you?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"To save time rather than have to possibly tell 1000 supporters the same answer a 1000 times you publish the options once in the public domain. It will save you a lot of typing of e-mails or having your game spoiled by people coming up to ask you the same question.'"
My game isn't spoiled by talking to people. I would guess I talk to hundreds at every game. Much nicer talking face to face. People tend not to carry a keyboard to hide behind when they are at the game.
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| Quote ="harrogate"PRINCE BUSTER
Think you get the point its the reason we came on here.
We want to stay at belle vue.
Take Castleford ground as an example .. wooden stand ( our demolished by council) not enough seat, it floods,
by not denigrating the ground and emphasising positives its now called by sky iconic!
So if its not applied to them then we should say No. Not to us, we are staying.
An earlier poster said that cost to stay would be 30k to 100k then its still got to be worth it.'"
You could add dodgy walls that fall down and floodlights catching fire, large sheets of glass missing from stand sides and concrete crash barriers that no way would stand the pressure tests that ours had to endure.
It is double standards being applied in respect of each ground but then again I don't expect anything different from this fiefdom of Box.
However having said all that, are you for real when you suggest BV could be made good for 30K to 100K. That's why I have just suggested MC should publish a brief appraisal and then you may realise the futility of your argument.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"You could add dodgy walls that fall down and floodlights catching fire, large sheets of glass missing from stand sides and concrete crash barriers that no way would stand the pressure tests that ours had to endure.
It is double standards being applied in respect of each ground but then again I don't expect anything different from this fiefdom of Box.
However having said all that, are you for real when you suggest BV could be made good for 30K to 100K. That's why I have just suggested MC should publish a brief appraisal and then you may realise the futility of your argument.'"
The reduction of 30-100k in central funding is because of the new minimum standards. Bringing BV up to scratch would be way more then that!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"The reduction of 30-100k in central funding is because of the new minimum standards. Bringing BV up to scratch would be way more then that!'"
I take it that would be per season ?
Then like you say that's even before all the other stuff and the constant battle to get a ground safety certificate.
Just as a ball park figure to get the ground up to the minimum standard and to be safe and sustainable without the constant repairs, have you done a rough calculation
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