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| Quote ="PHe"That's not on the BV and car park 'footprint' is it?
This was 'new' accommodation.
Or are you referring to the Benidorm flats?
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| A lot of football grounds have apartments/ office blocks in the corners of the stadium
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| Why not develop the East Stand at Belle Vue as suggested then use one of Vasty's temporary stands for the West side. I know that there are issues with services but there must be existing drains etc from the days when the Main Stand was there. Leave the North end and Benidorm flats until finance/time permits. Would still rather have a brand new Newmarket as I don't think amongst houses in Agbrigg is the best of locations but if Newmarket is dead...............
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| Just been reading this Vasty.
Firstly. Sorry to hear you have been unwell. I hope you are on the mend.
You have obviously done your homework on this.
I think this could definately be a goer, and on a personal note, living on the doorstep of Thornes Park just about, I would have no issues on making that journey whatsoever. For those who use public transport, I believe there is a bus from Wakefield that stops right outside the ground. I believe it is the 117.
Personally, I would prefer Dewsbury more of a short term fix, and for Belle Vue to have a full re fit.
If that were to happen, one of the complaints of our stadium is in the past is that the vantage points are too low, so I think the stands and terracing etc would need to be raised a little
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Just been reading this Vasty.
Firstly. Sorry to hear you have been unwell. I hope you are on the mend.
You have obviously done your homework on this.
I think this could definately be a goer, and on a personal note, living on the doorstep of Thornes Park just about, I would have no issues on making that journey whatsoever. For those who use public transport, I believe there is a bus from Wakefield that stops right outside the ground. I believe it is the 117.
Personally, I would prefer Dewsbury more of a short term fix, and for Belle Vue to have a full re fit.
If that were to happen, one of the complaints of our stadium is in the past is that the vantage points are too low, so I think the stands and terracing etc would need to be raised a little'"
Living on the doorsteps of thornes park that's where our community stadium should be perfect location and should have happened.
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| If a full refit is beyond budget of whomsoever is funding, has anyone any idea as to what parts of Belle Vue are serviceable/safe and for how long.
For example could the North stand and East stand still be used for a while whilst the west side of the ground is developed.
That would surely satisfy Superleague requirements,if allied to that, plans were in place for further staged development.
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| Are st still in communication with York court,when was the last meeting between them or has everything broke down completely
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| "However, the area around Belle Vue resembles nothing more than a building site and Carter says the Dewsbury move could be back on by Easter."
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/10725372/wakefield-wildcats-edge-towards-departure-from-belle-vue'"
I think that's called upping the anti - let's hope it works
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| Quote ="vastman"I think that's called upping the anti - let's hope it works
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I don't think he is bluffing ,I know MC and CB are really worried about a claim against the club and now he has stated the fact publicly , I am sure that is the main reason for leaving BV. You know the ground as well as anyone and I am sure you agree its only a matter of time before someone starts a claim for injury caused at a game. I am convinced this is our last season at BV.
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After all the publicity about Belle Vue being a dump where a serious injury could occur because it is in such a bad state of disrepair as stated by the chairman....which company really wants their company name linked to such a poor proposition...poorly timed I'd say by the club to push two conflicting messages to the media...it is a dump though.
https://wakefieldtrinity.com/like-win-s ... ng-rights/
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After all the publicity about Belle Vue being a dump where a serious injury could occur because it is in such a bad state of disrepair as stated by the chairman....which company really wants their company name linked to such a poor proposition...poorly timed I'd say by the club to push two conflicting messages to the media...it is a dump though.
https://wakefieldtrinity.com/like-win-s ... ng-rights/
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| Quote ="vastman"I think that's called upping the anti - let's hope it works
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After 5 years ?? of apparently not much and that's not saying anything against TRB and his group, Carter is right to lose patience.
If the state of our ground is embarrassing, then what do we call the delays caused by Yorkcourt and WMDC ?
I was vehemently against moving over there (Dewsbury) first time round but, not any more.
"Our" council have behaved disgracefully over the ground and as many have previously said, if they put their political will behind the Newmarket scheme, there would have been some concrete in the ground by now.
Sadly, despite 15,000 people signing the petition, it looks like the locals at Stanley have only gained "the big white box" and the community facilities just dont look like they will happen.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Vasty
I don't think he is bluffing ,I know MC and CB are really worried about a claim against the club and now he has stated the fact publicly , I am sure that is the main reason for leaving BV. You know the ground as well as anyone and I am sure you agree its only a matter of time before someone starts a claim for injury caused at a game. I am convinced this is our last season at BV.'"
Yes i know that's what raising the anti means or it does to me - I'm sure he means it wouldnt be very effective otherwise :
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| Personally a move to Dewsbury would be equally embarrassing for me and a once proud club. I get why he wants to move us out of BV. There is no reason why he should take on the liability of an ancient stadium, however, is this not what PI is for?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Vasty
I don't think he is bluffing ,I know MC and CB are really worried about a claim against the club and now he has stated the fact publicly , I am sure that is the main reason for leaving BV. You know the ground as well as anyone and I am sure you agree its only a matter of time before someone starts a claim for injury caused at a game. I am convinced this is our last season at BV.'"
What kind of injury? I've not even so much as slipped at BV and I've been well oiled on a few occasions.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Personally a move to Dewsbury would be equally embarrassing for me and a once proud club. I get why he wants to move us out of BV. There is no reason why he should take on the liability of an ancient stadium, however, is this not what PI is for?'"
I assume you are referring to insurance.
You cannot insure against criminal negligence.
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| I stumbled down the terracing last year in North Stand when we beat Warrington but that was my own clumsiness.
Just cut my elbow a bit but pride was really hurt.
It was worth it with the win and felt better after a celabratory pint.
Seriously though, it is a hazard in places with the broken concrete etc and my Dad who is a lifelong fan is now not so steady on his feet doesnt go so much these days. I think if things were different he would still be going
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| I have been involved in insurance for some of the most modern football stadiums and have still seen claims for supporters falling down the steps some even by hit by wayward shots on goal. This means you can still have the most modern development and not prevent claims.
To be able to make a claim you must prove the club to be negligent, with any claim falling under the Public Liability policy. Those running the club could be charged following a fatality but these are rare and usually result from gross dereliction of safety requirements.
This is my understanding but I am sure some on here will correct me if I am wrong.
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| I'll be immensely sad if it comes to pass. As for the developer, they might go "wow, we could build some stuff on this, cheers," and that's the end of Wakefield having a rugby team.
I don't criticise the decision, entirely understandable, and it is indictment on numerous others.
I'll see how I feel when it happens. I support the club because it's the club I have supported since I lived on St Catherine Street when I was 5, but as I am from Wakefield but no longer live there, the connection to the city is important to me. At what point is the club just a limited company? I support the club in Wakefield called Trinity, not the limited company that runs it. But I'll give it a go, and I might find I can live with it. I'm just not sure how I'll feel about doing a 150 mile round trip to watch a team that isn't in Wakefield, even if it is called that.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
I'll see how I feel when it happens. I support the club because it's the club I have supported since I lived on St Catherine Street when I was 5, but as I am from Wakefield but no longer live there, the connection to the city is important to me. At what point is the club just a limited company? I support the club in Wakefield called Trinity, not the limited company that runs it. But I'll give it a go, and I might find I can live with it. I'm just not sure how I'll feel about doing a 150 mile round trip to watch a team that isn't in Wakefield, even if it is called that.'"
I can understand your view point and the club may loose a few supporters like yourself. However life moves on and just as people drop off, others will get on board. Its not like Owl Lane is at the end of the universe, its still as densely populated as BV and I am sure new people who live nearby may go along to the games just like you did all those years ago.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I can understand your view point and the club may loose a few supporters like yourself. However life moves on and just as people drop off, others will get on board. Its not like Owl Lane is at the end of the universe, its still as densely populated as BV and I am sure new people who live nearby may go along to the games just like you did all those years ago.'"
Realistically PB, whether the move is right or not, you will lose many more than a few. I very much doubt that you would get more than half the support we currently get, going to Owl Lane.
My own view is unchanged, I will go BUT only for a couple of season and only IF a POSITIVE move is there for a new stadium or revamped BV. Otherwise I'm done after 60 years.
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| For the record, Dewsbury's stadium is 2.9 miles from the M1 at J40.
Didnt we submit plans a several years ago for around here/Queens Drive?
Really isn't that far
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Realistically PB, whether the move is right or not, you will lose many more than a few. I very much doubt that you would get more than half the support we currently get, going to Owl Lane.
My own view is unchanged, I will go BUT only for a couple of season and only IF a POSITIVE move is there for a new stadium or revamped BV. Otherwise I'm done after 60 years.'"
I've got my tin hat ready but, why ?
An expanded stadium at Owl Lane MAY be the only way for Trinity to play in a "modern" stadium and IF the capacity could be increased to 8000+, what is the problem with going to watch us play just outside the "city limits".
If we had some other options, I could understand what you are saying and I would agree with you but, maybe these options have been explored and when you bear in mind that any future change needs the support of WMDC, do you really think they will happen.
I would love to be watching Trinity in a new ground, in Thornes Park, Newmarket or wherever but, the chances of this happening seem as far away as ever.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I've got my tin hat ready but, why ?
An expanded stadium at Owl Lane MAY be the only way for Trinity to play in a "modern" stadium and IF the capacity could be increased to 8000+, what is the problem with going to watch us play just outside the "city limits".
If we had some other options, I could understand what you are saying and I would agree with you but, maybe these options have been explored and when you bear in mind that any future change needs the support of WMDC, do you really think they will happen.
I would love to be watching Trinity in a new ground, in Thornes Park, Newmarket or wherever but, the chances of this happening seem as far away as ever.'"
If Castleford get their new stadium, if won't require any upgrades, it'll be modern and in the Wakefield District? Would you be happy if we moved there?
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