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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"If i was a betting man then i'd go Anthony Tupou to not return, David Fifita to do so, sorts the quota/non-fed places out. Then Harrison & Wood announced and its job done.'"
Wood as in Kyle Wood?
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| I would guess it would be Kyle Wood.
However, the Kyle Wood rumour was going around before it all came about, regarding Moore.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Wood as in Kyle Wood?'"
Yeah. Although i've lost money before gambling!
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"If true, reasonable player.
Also due to my reckoning it would mean no Fifita or hopefully tupou, unless he has a Eurpean passport.'"
Wouldn't put too much faith in the OP, could just as easy be Dane Tilse both of whom Chester knows very well.
Just an uneducated guess imo.
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| Quote ="TRB"Add Mason Caton Brown to your list - he's a quality signing!
Happy with what we've signed. Still need to complete the forwards and awaiting the outcome of the Scott Moore debacle!'"
I can't see anyway the Scott Moore incident won't end up in a "parting of the ways", unless the S Yorkshire police were the arresting officers, they arrested/tasered/interviewed the wrong Scott Moore. I don't usually go for the "no smoke without fire" gag but can't really see this not being a serious offence.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I can't see anyway the Scott Moore incident won't end up in a "parting of the ways", unless the S Yorkshire police were the arresting officers, they arrested/tasered/interviewed the wrong Scott Moore. I don't usually go for the "no smoke without fire" gag but can't really see this not being a serious offence.'"
Totally agree,
Also if we are going to have a good pre season, I would have thought to have your first choice hooker signed up and settled in is a MUST !!!
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Totally agree,
Also if we are going to have a good pre season, I would have thought to have your first choice hooker signed up and settled in is a MUST !!!'"
Which could be difficult when MC is thousands of miles away on holiday, unless the signings are all signed and gonna be drip fed to us prior to Xmas to boost season ticket sales.
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| Allgood is a big lad their is no doubt.
I don't really know him well so will wait to see what he can do but the front row is looking more like it.
Chester says he likes a big front row so it's obviously building that way.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Allgood is a big lad their is no doubt.
I don't really know him well so will wait to see what he can do but the front row is looking more like it.
Chester says he likes a big front row so it's obviously building that way.'"
Not much of him on youtube but he's a tough lad, likes to take on the opposition tough guys rather than the little fellow.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"If i was a betting man then i'd go Anthony Tupou to not return, David Fifita to do so, sorts the quota/non-fed places out. Then Harrison & Wood announced and its job done.'"
I'd be more than happy with that - also think Finn will do well at 9 and Wood is also a player who gets abuse on here for no obvious reason.
Harrison I assume would be a season loan as he's not going to let a testimonial go surely?
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| Quote ="vastman"I'd be more than happy with that - also think Finn will do well at 9 and Wood is also a player who gets abuse on here for no obvious reason.
Harrison I assume would be a season loan as he's not going to let a testimonial go surely?'"
A loan would be the most likely option i'd have thought as his testimonial is under way. But given Warringtons signings in the pack then he is likely to be a bit off first choice there and i believe Wire also want to shift a bit of cap space to allow the signing of Kevin Naiqama.
As for Wood i think the thing is he's a different kind of hooker to Moore. We'd no doubt lose some bite in defence and maybe a little of the slight of hand that Moore was so good at but in return we gain more 'nip' out of dummy half and a better kicking game from the play the ball as well, which if we are going with a big pack is handy to have.
Question is to all his detractors, given the plan was to have Moore here and that is likely now not be the case and added to the fact that we have no overseas spots available, who else was a viable option?
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| Quote ="vastman"I'd be more than happy with that - also think Finn will do well at 9 and Wood is also a player who gets abuse on here for no obvious reason.
[u:3h1xrwz4Harrison I assume would be a season loan as he's not going to let a testimonial go surely?[/[/u
He might if Warrington 'pay up' his contract.
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| If Fifita opts not to stay, then a quote spot becomes available.
If we were realistically hoping to land Andrew Fifita, and there was money available, then would it be worth trying to use some of that moeny, to attract a certain young Warrington hooker over.
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| Know it's been slow incoming wise but if allgood does come get cox signed an hooker n a big second row I'd be more than happy going into the season with the squad we have
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| Quote ="Mwhite83"Know it's been slow incoming wise but if allgood does come get cox signed an hooker n a big second row I'd be more than happy going into the season with the squad we have'"
And who's paying for all that?
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| At the end of the day here, Allgood plus one more who ever it may be is only replacing Anderson and Scruton. Hirst replaced Yates
Likewise with Moore, with him likely to be going, and all we are doing is replacing him with another hooker.
Bringing in another back rower, we had Howarth and Walton. Not to mention earlier in 2016, Shulver.
I don't actually think with the amendments to the above mentioned, with the inns and outs, our cap spend there would particularly increase by much.
Also, if Anthony Tupou doesn't come back, then there is cap space freed up there too.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"At the end of the day here, Allgood plus one more who ever it may be is only replacing Anderson and Scruton. Hirst replaced Yates
Likewise with Moore, with him likely to be going, and all we are doing is replacing him with another hooker.
Bringing in another back rower, we had Howarth and Walton. Not to mention earlier in 2016, Shulver.
I don't actually think with the amendments to the above mentioned, with the inns and outs, our cap spend there would particularly increase by much.
Also, if Anthony Tupou doesn't come back, then there is cap space freed up there too.'"
Thats one way at looking at it.
You could also go further and say Hall and Owen replaced by Grix and Caton-brown. would suggest that's a break even but more like a saving.
So all in all , other than bringing in Williams very little investment.
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| On Twitter Chris Chester has been quoted as saying we're close to signing an English forward, and looking at a few more props on the market, let the speculation begin.
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| Really happy with the signings so far I know we still have a few to get without having the biggest pot in the world but my trust is fully in Chester n carter to get it right with what we have
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| Quote ="vastman"And who's paying for all that?'"
presumably we will be saving moore, fifita, anderson, howarth, tansy, scruton, hall, yates, shelver, and owens (1o out ) wages which would go a long way
plus the increase in sl payments
so far signings are caton brown, hirst, williams, grix possibly all good 5 in even if we sign english prop its still 6
so unless they are on double money .........
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| I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.'"
Probably highest price with lowest revenue in total to club ....
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"presumably we will be saving moore, fifita, anderson, howarth, tansy, scruton, hall, yates, shelver, and owens (1o out ) wages which would go a long way
plus the increase in sl payments
so far signings are caton brown, hirst, williams, grix possibly all good 5 in even if we sign english prop its still 6
so unless they are on double money .........'"
Doesn't work like that. You will have to factor in what I imagine will be a much bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone from what they were on this time last year. Also Mazive and Batchelor have moved up, yep they will be cheap but it adds up.
Williams, Allgood and Caton Brown are pricey signings and Grix and Wood won't come cheap.
For what it's worth I think we will sign like this....
If we don't keep Fafita then yep another prop looks likely.
Moore you could argue for a like for like replacement.
If we can let A Tupou lose then we will probably get a S/R.
However that for me is where it stops and there are a lot of ifs and buts in that.
I think the key this year is quality and we have to accept that includes TJ and MJ who really you need to treat as new high quality SL signings.
That's how I see it and why I think there won't be many more signings - this squad already has a lot more quality than last year but it comes at a cost and that is a smaller team.
That said I reckon there may be enough left in the kitty for some mid season signings which wasn't the case last season.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.'"
See my post and see how wrong you are.
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| Quote ="vastman"Doesn't work like that. You will have to factor in what I imagine will be a much bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone from what they were on this time last year. Also Mazive and Batchelor have moved up, yep they will be cheap but it adds up.
Williams, Allgood and Caton Brown are pricey signings and Grix and Wood won't come cheap.
For what it's worth I think we will sign like this....
If we don't keep Fafita then yep another prop looks likely.
Moore you could argue for a like for like replacement.
If we can let A Tupou lose then we will probably get a S/R.
However that for me is where it stops and there are a lot of ifs and buts in that.
I think the key this year is quality and we have to accept that includes TJ and MJ who really you need to treat as new high quality SL signings.
That's how I see it and why I think there won't be many more signings - this squad already has a lot more quality than last year but it comes at a cost and that is a smaller team.
That said I reckon there may be enough left in the kitty for some mid season signings which wasn't the case last season.'"
Yep agree with that. On the bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone, can they expect bigger deals, say at the end of the season on the back of their performances, or do they get them when they extend their contracts? say like Johnstone did a bit back, I presume he'd have got a rise then when other Clubs were sniffing around.
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