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| Here's my excercise in vanity!
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Here's my excercise in vanity!
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Tupou
BJB
Miller
Finn
Scruton
Sio
Anderson
Kirmond
Ashurst
Arona
Annakin
A Tupou
Simon
England'"
I would go with that.
Howarth distribution from acting half is too slow in my opinion and others can slot in for a brief spell if sio needs a rest during the game as Ashurst appeared to do on Sunday.
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Here's my excercise in vanity!
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Tupou
BJB
Miller
Finn
Scruton
Sio
Anderson
Kirmond
Ashurst
Arona
Annakin
A Tupou
Simon
England'"
Yes it was you I was digging at 
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Here's my excercise in vanity!
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Arundel
Tupou
BJB
Miller
Finn
Scruton
Sio
Anderson
Kirmond
Ashurst
Arona
Annakin
A Tupou
Simon
England'"
So whats hall out for, only asking mate
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| Quote bazzo44="bazzo44"So whats hall out for, only asking mate'"
Because he's not as good as Tupou IMHO.
He's tried hard this year and can be devastating in attack playing off the cuff - he's bags of skill - but this is the age of the complete player package and IMHO he still can't defend and we can't afford that - in fact no team in SL can.
No disrespect to the Championship but that's where he would really find himself, he'd be a superstar at one of the top clubs and able to play on his own terms. There is still room for the maverick luxury player there which IMHO is a good thing.
Since the start of this season every player I've had a dig at has upped their game hugely, Miller and BJB most obviously. Now I'm not taking credit for that it's just what's happened. If the same thing happens with Hall I'll gladly swallow humble pie but I don't see it. Hall appears to me to be one of those gifted individuals who turns it on when they and only they feel like it - not a bad thing in many cases but pro sport isn't one.
Bill Tupou just looked bigger, stronger and more up for it than Hall ever has. He may not be as flash but put out one good pass to Johnstone which despite popular folk law is the same as Hall manages.
Sorry, bit long winded but there you are.
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| Quote bazzo44="bazzo44"So whats hall out for, only asking mate'"
Not sure if he got injured last Sunday or not, if not he probably prefers Topou to Hall in this game, can't disagree with him tbh.
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| Tupou is bigger and stronger, but the attack won't be as good as when Hall is in the centre
You have to choose between the lesser of two evils or the better of the two skills (depending how positive you are feeling)
I think Tupou has been playing on the right before so I'm not sure if left is better for him or whether he'd be out of comfort zone.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Tupou is bigger and stronger, but the attack won't be as good as when Hall is in the centre
You have to choose between the lesser of two evils or the better of the two skills (depending how positive you are feeling)
I think Tupou has been playing on the right before so I'm not sure if left is better for him or whether he'd be out of comfort zone.'"
I don't buy that - he's scored three interceptions and off a dropped ball and that's about it - Arundel has created more tries than Hall and he's perceived as average. I'm sorry but I think people (not saying you are) are far to desperate to create a player in Hall that isn't there. It's like this perceived opinion that he's a S/O in waiting, he would be worth a punt if we were desperate and I see the logic but I've seen nothing to suggest he actually is.
He's not a Centre and unless he toughens up he never will be - he's a winger with a better attacking game and a poorer defensive game than most.
*STANDARD DISCLAIMER: VASTMAN DOES NOT GENERALLY INTEND TO OFFEND OR BE RUDE, BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY HE CAN'T ALWAYS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FEELINGS OF EVERY POSTER ON THIS FORUM - EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE OR NOT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT HE POSTS IGNORE HIM - I WOULD HE CAN BE A PLONKER AT TIMES - ALTHOUGH HE ACCEPTS THAT THESE DAYS NO ONE IS EVER PLAIN WRONG, SHOULDN'T EVER BE QUESTIONED AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALLOWED TO SPOUT ANY OLD NONSENSE OR JUST BE STUPID - HE ALSO ACCEPTS THERE ARE NO LOSERS IN LIFE AND WE ALL FINISH EQUAL FIRST - THIS SAID HE REMAINS COMMITTED TO AN EQUAL SAY WHAT YOU MEAN POLICY AND WILL NEVER DISCRIMINATE OTHERWISE BASED POSTCODE, SHIRT COLOUR OR GENDER ORIENTATION - THANKS*
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| Quote vastman="vastman"*STANDARD DISCLAIMER: VASTMAN DOES NOT GENERALLY INTEND TO OFFEND OR BE RUDE, BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY HE CAN'T ALWAYS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FEELINGS OF EVERY POSTER ON THIS FORUM - EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE OR NOT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT HE POSTS IGNORE HIM - I WOULD HE CAN BE A PLONKER AT TIMES - ALTHOUGH HE ACCEPTS THAT THESE DAYS NO ONE IS EVER PLAIN WRONG, SHOULDN'T EVER BE QUESTIONED AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALLOWED TO SPOUT ANY OLD NONSENSE OR JUST BE STUPID - HE ALSO ACCEPTS THERE ARE NO LOSERS IN LIFE AND WE ALL FINISH EQUAL FIRST - THIS SAID HE REMAINS COMMITTED TO AN EQUAL SAY WHAT YOU MEAN POLICY AND WILL NEVER DISCRIMINATE OTHERWISE BASED POSTCODE, SHIRT COLOUR OR GENDER ORIENTATION - THANKS*'"
 Wow a bit in there for everybody
A bit of humility a bit of bravado coupled with arrogance, even a tongue in cheek apology for those who don't have the same appetite as his good self when it comes to dishing out insults.
He even admits to being a plonker presumably for the sympathy vote but tempers that with the excuse that if your not happy then don't come on the Wakey board, the most laughable piece is when he says that no one is plain wrong, but basically it doesn't matter because if it suits my agenda whether your right or wrong you'll get both barrels without any discrimination of course as I like to be controvertial.
Not sure if you as his agent or vasty himself dreamed this up or what you hoped to achieve,
more likely to be sensationalism than modesty.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"I don't buy that - he's scored three interceptions and off a dropped ball and that's about it - Arundel has created more tries than Hall and he's perceived as average. I'm sorry but I think people (not saying you are) are far to desperate to create a player in Hall that isn't there. It's like this perceived opinion that he's a S/O in waiting, he would be worth a punt if we were desperate and I see the logic but I've seen nothing to suggest he actually is.
He's not a Centre and unless he toughens up he never will be - he's a winger with a better attacking game and a poorer defensive game than most.
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But by the same token Tupou is the same. He's a winger playing in the centre. He's doing well there, but he's had a lot of criticism for not letting the pass go, whereas Hall's problem is he can't always catch them.
Arundal imho is the best centre we have. He is a natural centre on the weaker passing side and he gets better every week.
All the centres have stepped up.
At the beginning of the season everyone thought we were weak there but with Arundal, Gibson, Tupou, Hall and Lyne I'd be ok with any of them, probably in that order though.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"icon_eek.gif Wow a bit in there for everybody
A bit of humility a bit of bravado coupled with arrogance, even a tongue in cheek apology for those who don't have the same appetite as his good self when it comes to dishing out insults.
He even admits to being a plonker presumably for the sympathy vote but tempers that with the excuse that if your not happy then don't come on the Wakey board, the most laughable piece is when he says that no one is plain wrong, but basically it doesn't matter because if it suits my agenda whether your right or wrong you'll get both barrels without any discrimination of course as I like to be controvertial.
Not sure if you as his agent or vasty himself dreamed this up or what you hoped to achieve,
more likely to be sensationalism than modesty.'"
Your the man.
*STANDARD DISCLAIMER EXPRESSLY FOR CHISSITT BECAUSE HE IS THE MAN: VASTMAN DOES NOT GENERALLY INTEND TO OFFEND OR BE RUDE, BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY HE CAN'T ALWAYS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FEELINGS OF EVERY POSTER ON THIS FORUM - EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE OR NOT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT HE POSTS IGNORE HIM - I WOULD HE CAN BE A PLONKER AT TIMES - ALTHOUGH HE ACCEPTS THAT THESE DAYS NO ONE IS EVER PLAIN WRONG, SHOULDN'T EVER BE QUESTIONED AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALLOWED TO SPOUT ANY OLD NONSENSE OR JUST BE STUPID - HE ALSO ACCEPTS THERE ARE NO LOSERS IN LIFE AND WE ALL FINISH EQUAL FIRST - THIS SAID HE REMAINS COMMITTED TO AN EQUAL SAY WHAT YOU MEAN POLICY AND WILL NEVER DISCRIMINATE OTHERWISE BASED POSTCODE, SHIRT COLOUR OR GENDER ORIENTATION - THANKS*
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"But by the same token Tupou is the same. He's a winger playing in the centre. He's doing well there, but he's had a lot of criticism for not letting the pass go, whereas Hall's problem is he can't always catch them.
Arundal imho is the best centre we have. He is a natural centre on the weaker passing side and he gets better every week.
All the centres have stepped up.
At the beginning of the season everyone thought we were weak there but with Arundal, Gibson, Tupou, Hall and Lyne I'd be ok with any of them, probably in that order though.'"
Well we'll have to differ on that one, perhaps it's just me who doesn't buy the complete transformation of Hall from last years public enemy number one to this years must have.
*STANDARD DISCLAIMER EXPRESSLY FOR CHISSITT BECAUSE HE IS THE MAN: VASTMAN DOES NOT GENERALLY INTEND TO OFFEND OR BE RUDE, BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY HE CAN'T ALWAYS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FEELINGS OF EVERY POSTER ON THIS FORUM - EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE OR NOT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT HE POSTS IGNORE HIM - I WOULD HE CAN BE A PLONKER AT TIMES - ALTHOUGH HE ACCEPTS THAT THESE DAYS NO ONE IS EVER PLAIN WRONG, SHOULDN'T EVER BE QUESTIONED AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALLOWED TO SPOUT ANY OLD NONSENSE OR JUST BE STUPID - HE ALSO ACCEPTS THERE ARE NO LOSERS IN LIFE AND WE ALL FINISH EQUAL FIRST - THIS SAID HE REMAINS COMMITTED TO AN EQUAL SAY WHAT YOU MEAN POLICY AND WILL NEVER DISCRIMINATE OTHERWISE BASED POSTCODE, SHIRT COLOUR OR GENDER ORIENTATION - THANKS*
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