I'd never thought you'd make me laugh Poptart but putting Greg Inglis and Micheal Shenton in the same bracket

What - you mean that Brian Smith is more qualified than the worlds best coaches on this forum? How dare he sign players he sees potential in the sooner we're rid of him the better!

I agree, we have to start somewhere.. We can't expect to be signing top class centres from the off!!! Let brian smith get a FULL pre season in with these players. With 4 centres signed up, two won't be playing week in week out... And non of us know for definite wether we might or might not of signed a better centre.. If we have then some of these will be cover.which we will need, and is something we lacked last season..

What a miserable bloody lot on here!

We praise the signing of BS and then hammer the players he has authorised to sign and work for him!

People get upset when they are questioned as to their level of support - well if you Want barometers, here it is!

My opinion, FWIW, is that Joe has been a very good player for us. I know it's not universally agreed by any means, but I'm happy with this one. He will certainly have competition for his place next season, which is exactly right.

The lad towed his nuts for us when push came to shove! I would certainly choose to have him alongside me in the trenches before a few on here - they just might stab me in the back before turning on the enemy!

I bet there's a few on here that ripped trees up in their illustrious carreers

It's a forum people are entitled to their opinion and in mine and other people's Arundel is not someone we shud be sign iii ng on a two year deal. If he proves me wrong next season I will be on here to admit it.

The comments about Arundel arent from people who can be classed as always negative but people who realise we need a massive improvement on last year and don't think he is the kind of centre we need.

So your kind of centre would be?

Not quite sure what people are expecting. Just how many top notch centres are available and at what cost.
Let's see how the new signings perform before we bag em. If Brian Smith wants them it will do for me.

Time has been very limited for us to be signing a good centre... We might be lucky and land one yet.. Then all of sudden arundel will seem to be a good cover signing... I think b smith will have had input into where the wonga gets spent on what player
We don't have bundles of it to spend.

Worksop. Did you thank ya dad for his investment in your entertainment . I'm sure he's pleased that you are looking forward to the new season. From your point of view you can always jack in and it will not of cost you a penny. On the other hand your dad's gift could prove top notch.
GIVE IT A REST.

One that can create opportunities for his winger. No point having Johnstone with his pace on the wing if he never gets any ball. End of last season was about being solid but tupou and Arundel created zero for the wingers. If we want to progress we need our backs to score more and I don't see Arundel creating or scoring many

I did thank him. I try to be a good son and me going to the games with my dad is more about us spending time together, the "entertainment" is secondary.....thank god.
I am not bothered if my opinion distresses you....I hope you don't find that rude of me but I was of the belief that a forum was where fans could express their opinions and mine is that Joe is not a super league standard player.......by a long way........a very long way.

Nothing but a bit part championship player as all our signings have been so far

So far I have no problems with any of the signings, they are all signed with position and budget requirements in mind . We do though need some quality and strike to worry opponents which so far we lack, but hey it's not even November yet, still along way to go before February and it all starts again.

Cheap squad player hopefully providing centre/winger cover during the season.

Looking forward to hearing that Pomeroy has signed a 2 year deal as think he'd be an improvement if he sorts his discipline out playing ironically alongside Ashley Gibson.

Your ok with me worksop, your views seem more in line with what most people feel on here than lamp boys regarding arundle 2 yr contract, if us on here were getting 2 yr contracts we would be ripping trees up or expecting criticism, don't know what wakefield are paying arundle but heard he was on 40k at Hull might be a bargain at 4 grand but I think he'll be on a lot more than that don't you :

Agree about topou . He is a winger for me... I think if brian smith gets a close season to work with arundel we might get some more from him .he is not a world beater but we haven't hadthe time to pick the centre we would of liked . Most will of been signed up..

Reading the Brian Smith quote it seems to suggest they are intending 'Big Joe' Arundel (at 6 ft 2 and 94kg)does a fair bit of gym work over the next few months which they feel may improve his game don't recall him breaking many tackles or offloads to his winger.

BS' We are keen to see how the physical development of a big off season working on skills and his time in the gym pays off for big Joe.”

Okay then so why not give him a 1 year deal? Prove to us he can do it and see if he does work hard in the off season. 2 years is a huge gamble and its a stupid one. This is as bad as giving Owen the 3 year contract. Be average show nothing and get 2-4 years at Wakefield. Its CRAZY! I did not see him beat a man or make a good pass in 6 month. Things were looking quite rosey but this is stupidity. We may aswell of gave Ali 2 years that would be less stupid than this at least Ali can still pass im sure hes probably faster than Arundel at 56.

Why can't we leave everything football up to the people in the know. It's totally amazing how the everyday fan at Wake knows the ins and outs of every contract regarding clauses, and am mounts. It total crap what some say they know . Financial advise can always be found and Mr Carter must have learned a great deal from the great detail provided by some.
Then the guy who knows everything about everything and loves to share all in knowledge with the rest of us. His expertise even extends to diet and training methods.
Do they ever read the ramblings they write , it's bloody laughable. Do they really have an opinion on everything. What they don't know they make up.

Then the poster who will post total fabrication or bile and sit back and wait for a response.

Opinions are the basis for all forums and it's a nutters paradise. BUT LIGHTEN UP FFS

people seem to forget he was a representative class player when he left cas to go to hull it didnt work out after a bad injury we have made a commitment to him and with a good pre season fingers crossed under his belt he may proove many on here wrong

I think we have every right to question after last years garbage we served up. Brian Smith does not walk on GOLD every decision he does should not be a given its correct. The fans have every right to question this bit of business. Whats next Reece Lynn on a 5year deal?

Because if he delivers what they think he can then he would be off after a year to a bigger club but with a 2 year deal he's ours unless someone wants to stump up the cash. If he doesnt deliver then thats the gamble.
I'm not too inspired by the signing given his previous performances but would love to be proven wrong

Didn't seem like he could be d for the majority of the season, seemed to improve under Smith but still didn't really do anything spectacular. Hopefully he'll repay us by finding some the form of his earlier years.

Don't think he'll be on megabucks but he's ok. Solid enough. Obviously if we are wanting to progress then we are gonna need better but as a squadman, not bad.