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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You can't deny Glover made improvements to the ground.'"
He did - because the RFL at that time made it clear that our continued existence in SL depended on those improvements.
Say what you like about MC, but you can hardly hold up Glover as a paragon of virtue when it comes to running a RL club - can you?
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| I am not making a judgement on who did the work but the fact that some was done. The last before that was probably the hospitality suites even though these were retained under less than desirable circumstances.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am not making a judgement on who did the work =#FF0000but the fact that some was done. The last before that was probably the hospitality suites even though these were retained under less than desirable circumstances.'" what exactly, sprinkling glitter like what we said
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am not making a judgement on who did the work but the fact that some was done. The last before that was probably the hospitality suites even though these were retained under less than desirable circumstances.'"
So the work the current regime haa done to help us pass an inspection and allow us to continue this season doesnt count?
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| I think those supporters that are now under cover would question the sprinkle comparison. Were you not the person involved in patching up the barriers for Mr Carter so I suppose you are part of the new glitter albeit it now appears that all of it was a waste of time because to a demolition contractor it is only metal.
I suppose Carter could sell off the stands which are fairly new or they could be our contribution to the new Dewsbury.
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| When you aren't paying any bills, I would imagine its easier to find cash for improvements.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I think those supporters that are now under cover would question the sprinkle comparison. Were you not the person involved in patching up the barriers for Mr Carter so I suppose you are part of the new glitter albeit it now appears that all of it was a waste of time because to a demolition contractor it is only metal.
I suppose Carter could sell off the stands which are fairly new or they could be our contribution to the new Dewsbury.'" why don't we start before the barriers put the capacity up to 8k, the club was threatened with zero capacity as there was no safety measures in place and it was work done behind the scenes at the beginning of the season that even allowed the 5,333 to become a reality, given that seems pretty pointless paying 50K to cover it over, as for the waste of time the club wouldn't of been here without shelling out just as much to reach requirements needed
which do you think was the waste of time and money
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| A couple of years ago we nearly went to the wall and everyone was lamenting this fact.
But true to Wakey, they pulled through.
Thus giving the moaners and pickers an excuse to pull the next regime down.
MC asked for help in getting the ground 'fit for purpose'. Snowie answered that call and even though you may think it's all a waste Scarlett.
We are still here and still in with a fighting chance of stopping up.
You know what they say? 'You don't miss something until it's not there'.
I think the 4 bus loads and countless other travelling fans going to Salford have indicated that they still believe.
If you have nothing of any interest to say Scarlett, don't say anything.
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| I have no doubt you did what you did for the right reasons let's hope the work you did makes it harder to remove the barriers when the contractors move in.
I said I was not commenting on the person himself but pointing out that work had been undertaken at the club when others had suggested it hadn't.
Ted was in the charge when the flats were built, Glover with the stands and Carter with the barriers. At the end of the day it will be the latter who will decide if any of it survives or is just torn down.
I suppose the developers may look to name the streets after former players just to remind residents what was there long after we are gone to pastures new.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have no doubt you did what you did for the right reasons let's hope the work you did makes it harder to remove the barriers when the contractors move in.
I said I was not commenting on the person himself but pointing out that work had been undertaken at the club when others had suggested it hadn't.
Ted was in the charge when the flats were built, Glover with the stands and Carter with the barriers. At the end of the day it will be the latter who will decide if any of it survives or is just torn down.
I suppose the developers may look to name the streets after former players just to remind residents what was there long after we are gone to pastures new.'" don't think your having a pop at me or the other that help but you are having a dig at the club,
as for who will decide we leave the stadium won't be just MC or CB, it will be the years of neglect that have made that for you and the fact the stadium was sold and the fans that have chosen to stop coming to support for one thing or another
so by all means keep ranting if it makes you feel better
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| With hindsight, mortgaging the ground must go down as the worst move of the last 20 years or so.
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| Well scarlet you making your self look a right plonker its come to light that yes glover did ask for the roofs to be fitted, its a shame he didn't pay for them and left for MC to foot the bill.
Now please crawl under the nearest hide away
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| Quote ="snowie"Well scarlet you making your self look a right plonker its come to light that yes glover did ask for the roofs to be fitted, its a shame he didn't pay for them and left for MC to foot the bill.
Now please crawl under the nearest hide away'"
If that's the case (and I don't doubt for one minute it isn't) then I think you are best leaving this alone Scarlett.
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| Is sp ag or je? Seems to be defending them a bit too strongly
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| Quote ="snowie"Well scarlet you making your self look a right plonker its come to light that yes glover did ask for the roofs to be fitted, its a shame he didn't pay for them and left for MC to foot the bill.
Now please crawl under the nearest hide away'"
well said snowie!
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| People who pontificate without very good knowledge of the subject are very dangerous.
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| In defence of a good mate in Snowie,how much do you think it would have cost MC and Co,just to get the ground to an acceptable level if we'd used contractors for the work and time involved,a lot more than nowt I believe.
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| Quote ="snowie"Well scarlet you making your self look a right plonker its come to light that yes glover did ask for the roofs to be fitted, its a shame he didn't pay for them and left for MC to foot the bill.
Now please crawl under the nearest hide away'"
I thought Glover wrote off over £1.5 Million of his own money. I assume that would have paid for installation of the roofs.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I thought Glover wrote off over £1.5 Million of his own money. I assume that would have paid for installation of the roofs.'"
I thought £600,000
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| Quote ="deeHell"I thought Glover wrote off over £1.5 Million of his own money. I assume that would have paid for installation of the roofs.'"
How much of other people's money did he write off by not paying bills?
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Would much rather play in our dump in Wakefield rather than dewsburys dump in dewsbury.'"
Come off it, Dewsbury's round is ten times better than BV especially now there is terracing at the ends.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"With hindsight, mortgaging the ground must go down as the worst move of the last 20 years or so.'"
Bit like now there wasn't a choice.
The RFL had set stringent requirements to reach franchise standards (yep remember yet another damaging and short lived RFL white elephant). The club needed a cash injection to meet them and we had pre crash Thornes Park promised to us. It was a gamble we had to take as SL survival was and still is IMHO paramount. It was a calculated gamble we had no choice but to take. We were strung out to dry by the Council and the RFL. The Council renaged and continues to do so. The RFL brought in the franchise which IMHO was good but then dropped it to suit themselves leaving us in limbo having sold the family silver to pay for stuff a year later we didn't need.
Ted made errors but was generally a victim. Also worth noting that the club had sold the ground before and it was Ted who got it back so it wasn't the first time. Sadly this club has been run badly since the 1960's maybe even before and we have inherited the mess with none of the glory.
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| I guess the problem is that your average supporter and even more so would be supporters don't care about which chairman is responsible for what or about balancing books/stabilising the club. They just look at what is happening on the field and how much it costs to watch and make a decision based on wether it is worth it. Unfortunately for Carter he is following 2 chairman who took risks and at times created excitement and interest in the club through whatever means. Carter is now left presiding over some of the worst performances in front of our lowest crowds paying the highest prices and there are only a couple of thousand left of us that seem to care.
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| Quote ="PHe"How much of other people's money did he write off by not paying bills?'"
Maybe he reached his limit of what he was prepared to lose I can hardly blame him for not wanting to throw more money down the black hole. His biggest mistake of course was giving that clown Elston the control of the money. Has anyone ever put in such an amount of his own cash as what Glover has. In 30 years of watching us I don't recall it.
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