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| Quote ="Theboyem"Everywhere i've looked shows Sio only ever playing hooker or loose forward and not centre and i've seen nothing so far that would suggest any different. If we want a stronger defender and extra size there then putting Ryan in that position is probably a better option. I'd be reluctant to put Tansey in the centres as his one on one defence isn't the greatest but i'd be willing to give him a chance before writing him off in that position so for me play him there against Cas this week with Lyne on the wing as he himself seems to be struggling at present. I said coming out of the ground yesterday that i'm not sure that Smith himself is 100% sure of his first choice 17 just yet and if the talk of a couple of comings and goings this week are correct then that would seem to be the case. These next two games are vital in finding the right combinations.'"
Then you'll just have to take my word for it, or not whichever the case may be!
I've seen a lot in Sio that suggests he can play at centre, he certainly has good feet and his core skill of catching and passing has looked more than solid. Apart from that he's listed as a back rower which is not too far removed from the job done by a centre playing out on one of the edges.
Ryan has done a decent job as a defender when he's played at centre but offers nothing in terms of attacking play or handling ability.
If we were blessed with quality threequarters then I'd prefer Sio in the pack but from what I've seen there's no reason to doubt that he'd do a very good job in the centres and be better than our other options.
If he can forge a relationship with Lyne and Lauitiiti on the left side then it could be a very tough proposition for the oppositions defence.
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| By that logic you could put Crowther, Ashurst or Kirmond there too.....And Ali...and possibly Annakin
I like Sio where he is.
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| Quote ="PopTart"By that logic you could put Crowther, Ashurst or Kirmond there too.....And Ali...and possibly Annakin
I like Sio where he is.'"
Yeah, because I only based my judgement on the fact he's a back rower and nothing more!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Yeah, because I only based my judgement on the fact he's a back rower and nothing more!'"
Quote ="The Avenger"I've seen a lot in Sio that suggests he can play at centre, he certainly has good feet and his core skill of catching and passing has looked more than solid. Apart from that he's listed as a back rower which is not too far removed from the job done by a centre playing out on one of the edges.'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"!'"
As I said, I didn't form my opinion based purely on the fact that he's a back rower.
ie I used some of his personal attributes and abilities as an individual player as well.
It's not that hard to spot in a 3 line post!
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| Think the pack seems to have possibly sorted out its best combinations with Anderson coming back being in that best 17 along with Lauitiiti, Simon and Godinet (probably) on the bench.
Locke nailed on at full back (if fit) with that X factor ability.
Johnstone has pure talent and has to be on the wing with Tansey in my opinion on the other (dependent on form).
Centres must be Arundel and Lynne unless Lee Smith is signed and plays the next couple of games?
Half backs Miller and Tim Smith.
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| Has Miller's four try feat clouded the picture. Great individual tries of the type scored by a stand off or hooker but nothing in his game suggests he has the first idea about organising a team from scrum half. And we still do not have a kicking game worthy of the name.
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| Quote ="woody01"FB:Locke
W:Tansy
C: Lee smith (hopefully we sign him)
C: Lyne
W:Hall
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P:Anderson
H:Mc Shane
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Kirke? You are taking the mickey!
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| Quote ="PopTart"Kirke? You are taking the mickey!'"
Think his experience will be vital come them middle 8's
Matty Ryan for me has been very poor this season, granted kirke not been great but just for his experience alone put his in front of Ryan for me.
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| Quote ="woody01"FB:Locke
W:Tansy
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Hall on the wing AND Kirke in the second row!?!? You do like your players lacking in heart and commitment don't you?
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| Quote ="Red, White and Blue"Hall on the wing AND Kirke in the second row!?!? You do like your players lacking in heart and commitment don't you?'"
Not at all, it's called a forum int it, people have different opinions. I think hall could make a very good winger gives us another option on the last play kick with him been tall which we have not had for a long time. Would of said Young Johnston but as seen at hull and cas game, we saw the best and worst of him and with the Middle 8's coming up unfortunately for me I don't think we can afford to risk him.
Plus I wouldn't play Riley as shown from yesterday don't have that killer instinct.
I would of had Owen there but obviously we can't, so for me hall would be the next best option
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| Take Dan Smith out, he's off to Huddersfield. You have got Anthony Mullally on loan for the rest of the season though before he joins Leeds.
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| Quote ="rlfan"Has Miller's four try feat clouded the picture. Great individual tries of the type scored by a stand off or hooker but nothing in his game suggests he has the first idea about organising a team from scrum half. And we still do not have a kicking game worthy of the name.'"
Yes, how dare he score 4 tries. Drop him.
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Tansey
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Scruton
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Molloy
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Washbrook
McShane
Simon
Anderson
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Not seen enough of some of the newbies yet, so might change my mind. Certainly lots of good options in the pack, but still look woefully short on centre options.
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| My question is why would we play any of the top 17 In the 2 reaming games? they mean absolutely nothing and all we are doing is risking injury by playing them- play our under 19;s I say.
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| Quote ="BOJ04"My question is why would we play any of the top 17 In the 2 reaming games? they mean absolutely nothing and all we are doing is risking injury by playing them- play our under 19;s I say.'"
That's not going to help our first team learn to play under our new coaches style, or give them much of a confidence boost going into the 8s.
I think I would play the likes of Johnstone, Crowther and Jowitt though in the remaining games and the 8s. The only way they are going to get better is by playing.
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| Quote ="woody01"FB:Locke
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He should never pull on a Wakey shirt again in my opinion. Been exceptionally poor and every time I see him he just looks like he does not want to be here. I get that it's a big change from what he's used to at Leeds but for someone his size he could sure as hell do a lot more than he does if he could be bothered.
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| Anybody who does not include Anakin in the 17 needs banning for RL as they know nothing.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Anybody who does not include Anakin in the 17 needs banning for RL as they know nothing.'"
and you've been out in the sun too long
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| Sorry, Belly, we all had hopes for Annakin but he has had a couple of occasions where either being run over in defence or brain explosions have cost us.
BS is a font of knowledge, probably forgotten more than most of us have ever known, and removed him quickly last time out.
I hope he makes it though. I suspect we are forming the biggest pack possible to run over the Championship sides. Annakin does not fit that bracket.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Anybody who does not include Anakin in the 17 needs banning for RL as they know nothing.'"
I'm sure even Jon Snow would disagree with you.
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| Quote ="Red, White and Blue"Hall on the wing AND Kirke in the second row!?!? You do like your players lacking in heart and commitment don't you?'"
Think Hall shouldn't be anywhere near the 17 for the middle 8's.
Johnstone is our best winger and must be in the 17.
Kirke should be given the opportunity over the next 2 games to show what he is capable of as he did briefly against Halifax in the CC. If BS can get the best out of Miller then hopefully he can with players like Kirke, Mullally, Anderson, Ashurst and Kavanagh.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I'm sure even Jon Snow would disagree with you.'"
very good
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| Pretty sure that anakin will figure in the middle 8s and will probably do a good job, but he is definitely not a shoe in considering the options we have in the back row. On his day he would definitely be in there but needs to find that level of consistency and cut out the errors. So for me Molloy would have the edge as he has been very solid this season.
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