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| Thought he would be good for us but, ultimately just hasn't played enough to warrant his signing.
It's the gamble that clubs like ours have to take but, so many times, it's just not worth it.
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| No disrespect to Paea but as he's hardly played we won't really miss him.
The forwards are not the problem in my humble opinion - it's the backs.
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| sorry to disagree but in my humble opinion i think its the forwards that are getting beat,thats why tim smith is doing nothing hes trying to play behind a beaten pack, and also hes missing paul sykes for his workrate and toughness down the middle,we should have kept him for another season imo.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"No disrespect to Paea but as he's hardly played we won't really miss him.
The forwards are not the problem in my humble opinion - it's the backs.'"
I'd say it was a mixture of both. The forwards aren't laying down a platform for the halves to work with, but when they get chances the halves (Miller) cock things up. Also the back three do not have the work rate of Mathers/Fox/Cockayne. I'll admit I wasn't a big fan of Cockayne because more often than not he was out of position and the opposition scored the majority of tries down his wing. But we miss his enthuiasm in attack.
When I compare this squad to the one Agar had in 2012 and 2013, the forwards we have now are slightly better but the backs are worse.
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| Why is the chairman taking the decision on who should go surely he should wait until the new coach is appointed and let him decide because I am sure he will possess more rugby knowledge than our chairman. All he is doing is weakening our squad before a new coach can come in. He is reducing the wage bill because I doubt very much that we will be able to find suitable replacements in the time available.
If reports are correct another player will be reducing the wage bill and options available this week. I would point out that if it was his decision we would still have Agar in charge because it was only because like Webster he thought it best to go whilst Carter saw nothing wrong with either of them staying.
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| Think Carter did the right thing . He had to sound the players out and get a response from them. The new coach will be left with players who want to remain , are willing to put a shift in and hopefully respond in all the right ways. If they don't I think they will be found out very soon , and the coach can judge for himself. I have not agreed with much M C s done or said but he got this one cock on.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"If reports are correct another player will be reducing the wage bill and options available this week.'"
Who?
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| ngb4c is 1 big man.. disses owen now paea??? the guy has an opportunity to play nrl .. who wouldnt go? sick of the fool! and as MC said it was nothing to do with not having the balls! also mr ngb4c your little darling aka craig hall hasnt been doing a great deal has he??
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Why is the chairman taking the decision on who should go surely he should wait until the new coach is appointed and let him decide because I am sure he will possess more rugby knowledge than our chairman. All he is doing is weakening our squad before a new coach can come in. He is reducing the wage bill because I doubt very much that we will be able to find suitable replacements in the time available.
If reports are correct another player will be reducing the wage bill and options available this week. I would point out that if it was his decision we would still have Agar in charge because it was only because like Webster he thought it best to go whilst Carter saw nothing wrong with either of them staying.'"
because it is the right thing to do. he doesn't want to be here. his family don't want to be here. we only want people that can give 100% and now that gives us chance to bring someone in that does want to be here and the incoming coach some input as to who he wants. good luck to him and well done mr carter for having the ba..s to stand by what he said.
I can't understand why you constantly over analyse the simplest of statements and if the other player you refer to is sammut then we should make sure he is tied up tight so he can't go back to Bradford and get his own way after the crap he has caused
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| It's all about opinions ! This lad Got paid to play and didn't and when the chairman asked for commitment from the playing staff or walk this professional player chose to walk that in my eyes is weak and we are better off without if he's not got the bottle to fight for this club who pay his wages then goodbye !time and effort wasted by the club ,he's let all the fans down by falling at the first fence small squad now smaller ! cannot believe some of the posts on hear after 12 weeks of dire rubbish , oh his family oh his injuries , oh his lets walk and leave his mates who he is plastered all over social media with smashing nan dos and drinking coffee some team mate , and while I'm at it new ground you walk up and tell him and any one else you feel that has let you down but please film it it will make for a better season vid than the games so far . Jesus wept
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| Big difference between playing in the south of France, then getting a one year deal at Wakey, then getting the opportunity to go back home and play in Oz.
Two of them options are appealing, the other one just hasn't worked out.
As for the 'no bottle' issue, maybe he's still not 100% and feels he can't give his all in the situation we find ourselves in for fear of breaking down again.
Gets a chance to fully recover for his new adventure next season.
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| Quote ="tamargrace"ngb4c is 1 big man.. disses owen now paea??? the guy has an opportunity to play nrl .. who wouldnt go? sick of the fool! and as MC said it was nothing to do with not having the balls! also mr ngb4c your little darling aka craig hall hasnt been doing a great deal has he??'"
Yes but now he's dissing Paea, the good news from that is he's turned his attention away from Nick Scruton
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| Carter made a point of saying that Paea requested his move 2 weeks before Webster went.
He has a kid on the way and family back home.
Seems sensible to me.
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| And a crop in the fields
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| I get it Lampy...... Lol
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| Yeah that Lucille sounds a real cow.
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| 500 children and a crop in the field
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| Surely only 4 hungry children...
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Who?'"
No idea I was only repeating what our chairman had said to the league express. That one deal was done and a second should be completed this week.
I suspect Sammut which I think would be a travesty but we shall just have to wait and see. It would be ironic and unbelievably foolish if it was to Bradford but nothing surprises me anymore.
The other rumour was Godinet to St Helens but that too is without any foundations I hope.
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Was only thinking 'what's happened to Puletua' the other day.
It's all about timing and maybe if Paea had gone a bit earlier we could have been in the running but the best we can probably do is one out, one in.
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Was only thinking 'what's happened to Puletua' the other day.
It's all about timing and maybe if Paea had gone a bit earlier we could have been in the running but the best we can probably do is one out, one in.
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| Hasn't he been injured all season?
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| I have every right to criticise the players. They 100% deserve it! Powderpuff at best.
Paea good riddance 9 week of physio bills then goes. Scrutton I still don't rate. Owen 1 good game that was last week. If more rats want to jump ship then fair does. Godinet to St Helens dont make me laugh hes been shocking all year aswell.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I have every right to criticise the players. They 100% deserve it! Powderpuff at best.
Paea good riddance 9 week of physio bills then goes. Scrutton I still don't rate. Owen 1 good game that was last week. If more rats want to jump ship then fair does. Godinet to St Helens dont make me laugh hes been shocking all year aswell.'"
There are people on here that don't criticise players' and I include myself there, personally I find it pointless, having said that I have no argument with those that do, everybody including you are entitled to voice their opinion, whether or not some people dress it up as constructive or just plain criticism, it is what it is but you take it farther than that and your criticism borders on the insulting and downright character assassination which is totally uncalled for, there's no wonder people on here find you and your bitterness towards some of these players contemptuous.
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| Quote ="chissitt"There are people on here that don't criticise players' and I include myself there, personally I find it pointless, having said that I have no argument with those that do, everybody including you are entitled to voice their opinion, whether or not some people dress it up as constructive or just plain criticism, it is what it is but you take it farther than that and your criticism borders on the insulting and downright character assassination which is totally uncalled for, there's no wonder people on here find you and your bitterness towards some of these players contemptuous.'"
Well said Chissitt, I cringe when I read his posts, more often than not he's shooting down players at will. What an embarrassment! I mean, he's been calling Nick Scruton Scrutton since he joined us from Bradford. Anyone who doesn't know the names of the players don't deserve to criticise them imo.
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