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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't buy into the media thing about us waiting for the middle 8. I know Webster said it but it was a throw away comment that has really been blown out of proportion
BUT, I absolutely agree about his personal style.
Even when he was assistant, I was lucky enough to be in the legends suite a few times and when he came in to do his chat with Elston after the game you'd think we'd lost every game by 50. He was quiet and non committal on everything and showed a total lack of enthusiasm (especially next to Elston as you can imagine)
He may well be dedicated and enthusiastic on the inside, but I have to say as someone who leads teams at work, and has Captained a rugby team, enthusiasm from the leader is 90% of how enthusiastic and determined the team will be. You don't have to be the clown, but you have to be passionate and show energy.
I like some things that Webster has done with the team, but he needs help in that area, and unfortunately his Captain is a similar character, being an effective but quiet achiever rather than an exuberant leader.
It's something that can be trained in my opinion, but it has to be learned fast otherwise it will be too late for him.'"
It's not a throw away comment when he says it post match two weeks running as he did. That shows that it is his mindset and it is one that has filtered through to the players and to the fans. You are correct in what you say about the rest of his demeanour and the hope that this will just change at the flick of a switch come the middle 8 is fanciful imho. The rot has set in already and i have no confidence at all that Webster is the man to turn it around.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"It's not a throw away comment when he says it post match two weeks running as he did. That shows that it is his mindset and it is one that has filtered through to the players and to the fans. You are correct in what you say about the rest of his demeanor and the hope that this will just change at the flick of a switch come the middle 8 is fanciful imho. The rot has set in already and i have no confidence at all that Webster is the man to turn it around.'"
Indeed. I have to say I like to support the manager and give him time to develop along with the team but his watershed is this next two weeks for me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed. I have to say I like to support the manager and give him time to develop along with the team but his watershed is this next two weeks for me.'"
Would you rather win tomorrow against KR or keep the Wembley dream alive against Leigh.
For me, I'd rather scalp Leigh next week (or win both )
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Would you rather win tomorrow against KR or keep the Wembley dream alive against Leigh.
For me, I'd rather scalp Leigh next week (or win both
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I'd obviously want both,but,to beat Leigh would be my pick just to shut their arrogance up
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| It's about putting in a good performance tomorrow for me.
Basics right, build pressure and try to control the game instead of panicking and giving possession away.
Hopefully that will take the team into next weeks game with confidence back in their own ability.
Possibly the biggest factor in how we perform tomorrow, is who will be named Captain?
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| ld expect to see much more effort from our half backs what ever the combination may be. Smith seems to be well below what you would expect . For me H K R would be a team I would expect to run close and we are more than capable of beating them. The whole team seem to be short on ideas and Smith could and should take this type of game and run it.
Its about confidence and using this game to bounce back, I want to see a massive effort from all.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I'd obviously want both,but,to beat Leigh would be my pick just to shut their arrogance up
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| We have been patient personified, the results have been nothing short of disgusting. I am amazed by the fact that if this had been Agar coaching the number of out threads would have engulfed the forum. I read that we would be happy to lose but be competitive, this is not good enough we should not be satisfied with teams scoring 40 + every week. We made Catalan look good they cannot win away but managed to score 40 against us.
I blame Webster for bringing the great name of Wakefield Trinity into the RL gutter. No team should lose this badly every week and to say we are looking at the middle 8 play offs should be a sackable offence because if the supporters decided what's the point turning up then we would have our chairman on twitter questioning if we want a club. He should be asking that of Webster by making such a dumb statement.
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| I'll give Agar some credit in that he in the end admitted had no clue how to turn around the form of the team last year. Webster this year has done nothing but blame other things from his and the teams poor performances. I agree with Scarlett he is dragging WTW through the mud and will bring the club further disgrace through winning us the wooden spoon.
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| Does anyone know how Webster compares percentage wise compared with the Agar era.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Does anyone know how Webster compares percentage wise compared with the Agar era.'"
Quick scan...
Agar 28/74 win ratio 37.84%
Webster 9/25 win ratio 36%
Four of Websters wins came in his first 5 games. Since then its just a win ratio of 20%.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Spot on BLM,
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I read the same on the Salford forum,did you miss that one?
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| Quote ="atomic"I read the same on the Salford forum,did you miss that one?'"
Too much time on your hands
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| Well I'll be there supporting the lads on tonite and taking a car full over all tickets purchased from the tidings so the club make a much needed couple of quid.
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| I honestly don't care - will just be another gutless and clueless performance - HKR by an easy 50 - a number to match Webster's excuses and moans.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Quick scan...
Agar 28/74 win ratio 37.84%
Webster 9/25 win ratio 36%
Four of Websters wins came in his first 5 games. Since then its just a win ratio of 20%.'"
5 wins in 20 games is 25%
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| Quote ="Edith"5 wins in 20 games is 25%'"
It is but it will be correct after we win tonight. I meant to add the caveat that one of the games was against Halifax so a championship side and maybe shouldn't count. But it was late and i forgot.
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| It's noticeable that Cox, Larroyer, Campese, and Tilse are back in contention for tonight, I know Larroyer was injured in the warm up and Cox was still at Huddersfield last week, but I can't help wondering if Campese and Tilse's injuries were just tactical and both players were saved for a much more winnable game!
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| Quote ="Edith"5 wins in 20 games is 25%'"
You've far too many brains for one Edith, you should have been a twin dear
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| Quote ="Edith"5 wins in 20 games is 25%'"
To me the real telling statistic is our points against this season which is totally unacceptable
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| Quote ="jack in the box"To me the real telling statistic is our points against this season which is totally unacceptable'"
It certainly is, I'm no coach but I'd have thought it would be easier to coach a team to stop/nullify another team defensively, it gets much more complicated when you have to coach good defence and combine that with out scoring the opposition.
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| Hope the decision a to play wash brook doesn't backfire
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| Washbrook in the 17?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Washbrook in the 17?'"
According to the club Twitter account he is starting despite what Webster said about his rib injury earlier this week
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| The Craven Park pitch looks a bit sp of grass tonight.
Don't think the cameras are doing it justice.
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