I'm happy to get rid of our 50% of the 50-50.

that's as I saw it
All you could hear was the two said Cas fans gobbing off and threatening every one

The older cas fan hit the ground very hard as his punch misses and didn't get back up
The two Cas fans behaviour was awful

If you want to get drunk and fight go do it else where and do it

Segregation has got to be the only answer for big games like this, otherwise this is what happens. Would any of us go in the South Stand at Headingley ???...of course we wouldn't as we would likely get a good kicking, and you could say the same for most away grounds, so if Cas allow their home fans to stand in the away end at matches such as this, then I'm afraid this will always happen - fierce local derby, passionate fans, too much alcohol = recipe for trouble.
We need to make sure that this is avoided at Belle Vue for the return fixture, so segregation is the only way for me, for this game anyway !!

Very much so.

Indeed, as I say not excusing it but just pointing out that had it been a flare it could have been even worse.

Didn't see this particular incident but we had plenty of abuse coming out of the ground, Cas fans were trying to goad us into a scrap, one even had the audacity to call me a fat Barsteward! The cheek of the guy, gave him a nice smile then carried on walking, think that hurt him more than a punch.

It’s a sad say when you bring in segregation. The majority of fans can and do behave themselves. Why should the majority suffer because of a few idiots who can’t?

TBH fans should be able to stand/sit where they like and not be afraid they’ll get a kicking. 99/100 if you’re not acting like a dick you’ll be fine. I’ve stood in the sounthstand many times (I prefer the view from the sideline) and never once felt threatened despite being an away fan.

The answers for me would be the following, for games against teams where there has been trouble do the following:

1. Refuse entry to anyone who looks worse for wear with drink.
2. Do more bag searches for things like illicit cans, bottles, flares and smoke bombs – any found will be confiscated – obvs flasks don’t apply!
3. Have more stewards on duty in the ground and have more proper rozzers on hand. Anyone chucked out for being in trouble gets a season long ban. Anyone arrested and convicted is banned for good.

Timing of the smoke bombs (not flares, jesus christ) was poor. But the reaction has been blown way out of proportion. To ban the young lads from the sport 'worldwide' is pathetic! A bit of smoke burnt for around 10 seconds and didn't cause anyone any bother. No harm done.

I can't believe that some wakefield 'fans' are on here to have a whinge rather than celebrate a derby win!

That unfortunately is the issue John. You and some others don't see why there is a problem with fans throwing smoke bombs on the field.

It would be a shame if we had to segregate it next year but if it stops idiots being themselves and trying to fight other teams fans then it may have to be so. We do have some idiots and I wish they'd go forth and multiply elsewhere such as playing near overhead cables with a steel bar.

The irony is that we have these strict checks at Belle Vue, and we have constant complaints about it.

The way some of the Wakefield fans have behaved recently, I'd rather be segergated and I'd rather have a large security level.

I guess that you weren't there then were you with you saying the smoke burnt for 10 seconds. The fools should be banned from any ground for as long as it takes and maybe they'll realise how pathetic they have been.

Are you for real ?

If it was "just a bit of fun" maybe you could point out the people involved and ask them to come forward.
Certainly when the Wakefield Chairman came into the crowd looking for the perpetrators, he didn't seem very amused.

As I say, point out the people involved and the rest of us can get back to enjoying the game

But it had the potential to harm people, especially those with asthma. Are you one of the brain dead morons who set them off? That type of behaviour belongs in football, not Rugby. Ban them for life.

Maybe you should get in touch with MC and tell him how no harm was done. Maybe you could chip in with help paying
the fine we will probably get too while you are at it.

Couldn't be more serious?

And you quote "just a bit of fun" but i don't recall saying that??? Point is that I enjoyed the game and a smoke bomb isn't going to change that fact.

If your sad enough to let it ruin a great day yesterday then I feel for you I truly do.

As an asthma sufferer myself i can say barely had potential to harm, its not like it was an enclosed area but i do see your point. And nope but they were trying to create an atmosphere, the fact that you'd like to see some young lads banned for life suggests your the brain dead moron here.

A 20k fine for the club will ruin what was a superb comeback and a fantastic win at Cas.

No, I want to see some hooligans with complete disregard for other members of the crowd to be banned for life.

So you are ok with someone setting off a smoke bomb emitting dense smoke in a crowd of 1500 packed people and then throwing it over the heads of the couple of hundred or so in front of them?

Given the amount of bother you’ve had from a minority of fans I’d say you’re stuck with the checks. It’s obvious why they happen. I think the problems start when they’re used to force people to buy refreshments in the ground rather than any real safety feature. Stuff like picnics/flasks/umbrellas shouldn’t be causing any issues but I suspect they might.

As for segregation – if the checks are done and the drunks are kept out (remember it’s an offence to serve alcohol to someone who is drunk) then there should be fewer problems and no need to have it.

There’s a chance we’ll be playing you lot at the end of the season (though not guaranteed) in a really charged atmosphere. I hope any issues are sorted by then.

So if a orange smoke bomb is thrown on the pitch at Belle Vue when cas come will they get a 20k fine? It's all been blown out of preportion happens every match at the football. Nobody was hurt not like the fighting after the match which doesn't get much of a mention of cas been fined.

Sorry but the science of it is irrelevant - I happen to get your point - but the facts are that these items are banned in every ground in every sport in this country, and that is the bottom line. Be that stupid and you pay the price, it's how law and order works!

Yeah i was there it was fine, not impressed with it been thrown other peoples heads tbh but i'm not gonna whine like a bitch and let it ruin yesterday for me.

Not in the UK they don't. Yes it happens but the offenders are usually caught and ejected.