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| Quote ="PopTart"Some sporting clubs even give discount to forces personel.
I'd be ok with that. Clearly we haven't got bases near us so it wouldn't impact us like some areas but it's good PR'"
Thing is its all about getting people in the ground. If this brings in 100 people over a season, initiatives like this are worth it(using free platform to advertise with club official social media accounts). I would even go as far as giving all the services (fire,Nhs and police) discount even if it a just a few quid for selected games. But it's no good trying to get new fans in the ground when you can't even keep your old ones by removing student season tickets for no apparent reason. You have to get people hooked and you can't do that without them being inside the ground.
While I'm thankful for the club's stability, there is no active selling, no gimmicks and no intent to sell the club's image to potential customers. They have Facebook and Twitter, but when was the last time they put anything exciting or innovative on either?
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Wakefield College has over 10,000 students just getting 5% of these through the turnstiles for 5 games per season at £12 per ticket would equate to 500 x £60 = £30,000 additional revenue per season if my maths is right.... Short sighted in my opinion as it also doesn't take into account sixth form colleges in the area. These are also fans for the future support of the club.
www.thestudentcarduk.com/index.p ... rdiff.html
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Wakefield College has over 10,000 students just getting 5% of these through the turnstiles for 5 games per season at £12 per ticket would equate to 500 x £60 = £30,000 additional revenue per season if my maths is right.... Short sighted in my opinion as it also doesn't take into account sixth form colleges in the area. These are also fans for the future support of the club.
www.thestudentcarduk.com/index.p ... rdiff.html
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| Leeds Rhinos were offering a £40 season ticket to students at Leeds Metropolitan University and Leeds University
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Quote ="asmadasa"Wakefield College has over 10,000 students just getting 5% of these through the turnstiles for 5 games per season at £12 per ticket would equate to 500 x £60 = £30,000 additional revenue per season if my maths is right.... Short sighted in my opinion as it also doesn't take into account sixth form colleges in the area. These are also fans for the future support of the club.
www.thestudentcarduk.com/index.p ... rdiff.html'"
That doesn't include merchandise and refreshments either. Big chunk of money. Potentially massive if you gain some life long fans out them.
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Quote ="asmadasa"Wakefield College has over 10,000 students just getting 5% of these through the turnstiles for 5 games per season at £12 per ticket would equate to 500 x £60 = £30,000 additional revenue per season if my maths is right.... Short sighted in my opinion as it also doesn't take into account sixth form colleges in the area. These are also fans for the future support of the club.
www.thestudentcarduk.com/index.p ... rdiff.html'"
That doesn't include merchandise and refreshments either. Big chunk of money. Potentially massive if you gain some life long fans out them.
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| OK as at this moment in time the club will recieve no income from me this year for reasons given earlier. At this late stage in the closed season i will make a proposal to the club based on what i can afford. I will pay £100 for my concession season ticket and £100 pound for my grandsons (studant) season ticket.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"OK as at this moment in time the club will recieve no income from me this year for reasons given earlier. At this late stage in the closed season i will make a proposal to the club based on what i can afford. I will pay £100 for my concession season ticket and £100 pound for my grandsons (studant) season ticket.'"
What are your "age related" circumstances that justifies a £100 ticket then?
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| Its just that last year i paid i think £70 for my concession and £70 for my grandsons junior ticket, this year he would have been a studant ticket but that has been scrapped so he goes straight up to an adult £250 plust whatever the increase on my concession. All im saying is if the club whant us to attend this coming season the £200 total is what i can afford and are willing to pay, plus dont forget on match days i do buy the odd drink and chips etc, its up to them but i get the impression they arnt bothered about peoples circumstances the price is what it is take it or leave it.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"I think the decision to completely drop the student concession is completely bizarre.'"
It's a shocking decision. Traditionally students are at the age where they'll either stick with the club and be long term fans or they'll discover other things to do at the weekend and drift away. Offering no student discount on season tickets/entry is one way to make sure it's the latter. I asked a student I know if he'd got his season ticket for this season, his reply was ''no, can't afford it this year''. The student market is a good market to tap into but with no student discount we've no chance.
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| I am in the slot between 60 and 65 and have no problem with paying the full amount.
Never had 'owt for nowt' in my life including being a student in the late 60's and early 70's.
Before anyone mentions grants in those days.......didn't get one....... my parents had to 'cough up' the lot!
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It's a shocking decision. Traditionally students are at the age where they'll either stick with the club and be long term fans or they'll discover other things to do at the weekend and drift away. Offering no student discount on season tickets/entry is one way to make sure it's the latter. I asked a student I know if he'd got his season ticket for this season, his reply was ''no, can't afford it this year''. The student market is a good market to tap into but with no student discount we've no chance.'"
This is exactly it. Once the habit is broken at that age many will never come back, they will have found other pass times and interests. It runs the risk of creating a lost generation of fans whilst at the same time at the other end of the generation gap alienating a set of older ones who who may now be retired and for the last 2 or 3 years have been paying concession prices. Once again if they now cannot afford to go then the habit is broken and that could well be them done for good. The club has come a long way in the last 18 months financially but i think they have got this one badly wrong. For me if you are a student then you should get the concessionary rate. If the club is adamant that the oap rate should start at 65 then that should be for new purchasers and they should have offered existing concessionary pass holders the chance to renew for a set time at a lower rate.
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| I understand the moans about lack of special Student prices but, as an employed over 60 myself, I can't see the justification for any special treatment for non-pensioners. You might as well offer concesionary tickets for over 50's! The excuse that "it used to be cheap" really isn't valid as the truth is they were too cheap.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I'd suggest they are all valid questions.'"
Maybe the folk asking the questions should try attending the [url=http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/2015/01/fans-forum-returns fans forum[/url on 4th February and get the opportunity to ask those questions of Michael Carter or someone else who may actually be able to answer it.
Let's face it, none of us on here know the reasons. Ask the question and then see if you're satisfied with the answer.
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| Why should we have to attend a forum why carnt they give some answers on here we know they read them but dont appear to want to justify anything to anyone, can they really afford to be so aloof. For what its worth as regarding the existing situation i will probably use my £100 by attending 5 selected games paying on the gate.
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| Just worked out poptart posted ticket prices for this season and if i buy on the gate £22 for my grandson and £15 for me add together £37. If i allocate £200 as previously stated thats 200 divided by 37 = 5.4 games call it 6, if we watch the sky games down my local ( how many sky games are we on) i can select the games to watch probably before the split leave out the games against the lower divisions, then work around holidays ( i missed 2 last year because of holidays) then rubbish weather etc it may work out ok.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Why should we have to attend a forum why carnt they give some answers on here we know they read them but dont appear to want to justify anything to anyone, can they really afford to be so aloof. For what its worth as regarding the existing situation i will probably use my £100 by attending 5 selected games paying on the gate.'"
But if you attend the forum and ask outright it's a damn sight harder to avoid answering isn't it? Was just a suggestion so no need to get quite so stroppy.
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| Sorry didnt mean to come across as stroppy was trying to be constructive.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Just worked out poptart posted ticket prices for this season and if i buy on the gate £22 for my grandson and £15 for me add together £37. If i allocate £200 as previously stated thats 200 divided by 37 = 5.4 games call it 6, if we watch the sky games down my local ( how many sky games are we on) i can select the games to watch probably before the split leave out the games against the lower divisions, then work around holidays ( i missed 2 last year because of holidays) then rubbish weather etc it may work out ok.
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Nobody can force anyone to buy a season ticket to watch Wakefield.
The value o a Wakefield S/T was heavily eroded under the previous regime and now that S/T prices are back to a more realistic level, nobody wants to pay.
To compare a S/T to watching down your local is utterly ridiculous
The simple choice is whether enough people actually want to pay to support a pro rugby club in Wakefield and if so, we should be prepared to pay the full price.
The club almost wend bust on the back of the give away tickets and none of us want that to happen and a S/T is still excellent value
15/16 games of top flight RL for £15/16 (with a S/T), it costs half that just to go to the cinema !
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Nobody can force anyone to buy a season ticket to watch Wakefield.
The value o a Wakefield S/T was heavily eroded under the previous regime and now that S/T prices are back to a more realistic level, nobody wants to pay.
To compare a S/T to watching down your local is utterly ridiculous
The simple choice is whether enough people actually want to pay to support a pro rugby club in Wakefield and if so, we should be prepared to pay the full price.
The club almost wend bust on the back of the give away tickets and none of us want that to happen and a S/T is still excellent value
15/16 games of top flight RL for £15/16 (with a S/T), it costs half that just to go to the cinema !'"
I think you miss the point Wrencat, its not about being prepared to pay full price its about affordability, i can not see the sense in scrapping the student ticket as effectively a good section of support jumps from a junior ticket straight up to adult £250 plus the change to the concession from 60 to 65. Why on earth did they not just increase the prices across the board by inflation plus 3% its a no brainer. As to your last point do you really think you can increase your support and thus income by telling people they should support their pro rugby club and pay top prices, in the real world you can not dictate to people. The true gate price is what people can afford as simple as.
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| I agree. Most people don't want to buy season tickets (or pay on the gate) to support the club financially.
They buy them because they want to be entertained and the season ticket offers better value to do this.
If you can't afford the season ticket, it isn't a bargain at all. You just pay what you can, and in some cases that will be nothing.
The difficulty is to make Wakefield Trinity affordable in people's budget by making them want to prioritise the spend at the cinema or the football on Wakefield instead.
In that sence, the previous board had it right. They made Belle Vue an exciting place to come. That would have brought in even more income through sponsorship and extra spectators. Unfortunately they didn't have the financial skills to make it work.
I'd rather have MC over any of the previous chairmen, but the perfect storm of all of them would have been nice.
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| Yes sorry to keep banging on about this i just think they have got it wrong, when this management took over they stopped people sneaking in, they stopped the conterfeit tickets and the freebys from clubs and pubs (i hope) thats all good. What they should have done then as i said before was increase the ticket price across the board, but what they have done is gone from one extream to the other and by changing the ticketing system allianated a big section of supporters.
As they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating and i suppose we will see who was right at the end of the season.
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| I agree with previous two posters. I pay to be entertained and the current position by the club is short sighted.
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| The cost of the card entry (instead of paper ticketing) comes at a cost also. I would imagine this system is seen as an investment for future seasons but the cost of the investment has to come from somewhere - unfortunately students and OAP's.
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| I agree that students should get a discount, however if you are under 65 you are not an OAP.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"The cost of the card entry (instead of paper ticketing) comes at a cost also. I would imagine this system is seen as an investment for future seasons but the cost of the investment has to come from somewhere - unfortunately students and OAP's.'"
Cant see it myself the card itself is nothing more than a piece of plastic, probably costing less than a ST book and any additional cost like the bar code would have been factored into the price of the ticket you would have thought.
Not that I agree with it and have a lot of sympathy for them, but it's difficult to argue with the club regarding concessionary season tickets' for the 60-64 year old's, it's a different thing however regarding student concessions and surely even at a discounted rate it's got to be preferable to losing lots of fans what cannot afford to come and will probably have to stay away, to my mind it's a gamble the club have taken and will fail surely a bit of something has got to be better than a lot of nothing.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Yes sorry to keep banging on about this i just think they have got it wrong, when this management took over they stopped people sneaking in, they stopped the conterfeit tickets and the freebys from clubs and pubs (i hope) thats all good. What they should have done then as i said before was increase the ticket price across the board, but what they have done is gone from one extream to the other and by changing the ticketing system allianated a big section of supporters.
As they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating and i suppose we will see who was right at the end of the season.'" what the should of done is increase price across the board wow so you would rather of kept the black market going then at the cost of the honest fans that was willing to pay the going rate to watch a sporting game, and you say that they have alienated fans and that is the reason for the drop in attendance, the only ones the have alienated is the ones that can't get the cheap tickets or even jump the wall
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