To be fair to Owen he's probably had about one pass since he's been with us. Ryan Hall would look useless on our wings.

Correct. Our only decent centre is sidelined at the moment.

Ryan Hall wouldn't have had the pace to get back and make that tackle either. He's a bit of a juggernaught since he's piled on the pounds.

Agreed, look at Riley who i think has done well for us but has scored 1 try i think in about 8 games whereas at Warrington he averaged just under 1 per game.

Don't worry, Riley will even up the tally sheet by scoring 7 on Sunday.



Also, as well as missing a traditional passing centre inside, they have suffered from the absence of Ali.

Agree with your point on Ali, he attracts 3 or 4 players which creates space for other and he can get the ball away at anytime which often gives his centre or winger the chance to break.

Has pretty much always been the case at Wakey.

What TRB!
When Big Neil,Skene,Brooke and later on Keith Smith were centres?
Not' picking you up'.
Just being' light hearted'.

You could add Domic and Casey to that too.
The problem is we have covered nearly 60 years with 6 names

+ Collis for 7

We've had some great wingers who didn't get a good pass.

Well I watched a bit of Smith, but the others - sigh!

As PT says, there's been a couple of others who feed a winger, inc Collis when fit, but I would say, in general, we use wingers as battering rams rather than racing machines!

Please do not mention Sicknote Colliss in the same breath as Keith Smith, Neil Fox, Skene and Brookey. There are 15 better centres in SL this season than Collis.

for me collis should go.we get no games from him,as for owen if he could get the form back from 2 years ago i would have him on a 3 year

Ironically, Smith who was one of the most skilful I've seen was not exactly a picture of health.
Collis judged on his skills not his current injury is one of the best we've had since Smith himself.

Sorry, Collis should not be mentioned in the same breath as Keith Smith. He is still the most silky skilled centre i've seen at Belle Vue in the best part of 40 years.

Collis is a classy player, but massively flawed due to his propensity to injury; without that, he'd be at a bigger club. Sad but true.

Smith not half as silky or skilled as best centre I have seen at Belle Vue namely Alan Skene.

I remember going to an away match at Fulham when Smith was playing. He got the ball in centre field about 30-40 metres out from their try-line, and ambled across field towards the left wing. As he approached the touchline everyone was expecting the drop-off pass to the winger, but he dummied, hit the gas and left everyone else standing as he scooted around behind the posts......pure class !!!!!

Challenge Cup match, I was there as well.

Smith was a class player but suffered from illnesses rather than injuries, it turned out he had allergies to a large number of things including his own bed.

I was there too. I missed Smith putting the ball down because I was still watching the winger ((Fletch?) who I was convinced Smithy had offloaded the ball to.

An amazing player and worthy of his own thread.

Casey played mainly at stand off although he arrived as a centre - however you can't put him in the list IMHO because he was not playing SL opposition - and if I recall he sunk without trace at Salford.

Domic - yes.

At his peak, Adam Hughes was a pretty usefull centre. Still remember the try he scored at Headingley and the Wakey match video commentary just repeating the words "Adam Hughes" over and over again getting progressively louder and louder as he beat man after man until eventually crossing the try line.

I take your point on Casey, though I personally rated him highly.
He should have stayed at Wakefield.

I only picked out what I see as "passing" centres. There are a lot of blockbusting runners who are great centres who I wouldn't have picked in this list.

Greatest centres I've seen were in 82 Aussie tour

Steve Rogers was the most skillful centre with a perfect passing game (obviously he could do other things too)
Mal Meninga was the ultimate runner with the ball.

Complete opposites but truely great centres.

Justin Brooker anyone?