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| Quote ="upthecats"Of course he's had unfair critcism Willzay....
Two today for example.....slagging him off for picking Mathers over Fox and Lyne when the latter two are injured.....
Slated for dropping Mathers from full back and trying other options there when all and sundry were calling for Mathers to be dropped....
Expecting better results from Leeds twice, Huddersfield away, Cas at home, while in a period of still having to try things out due to hardly any pre season and signing key players late....
Criticised for picking Washbrook, saying it's his best mate, even though he's been nowhere near our worst player...
Criticised for bench changes when in four games this season we've lost a player for the complete match in the first 10-15 minutes....
As I said, he has made mistakes, but doesn't everyone.....in my opinion though he HAS had a lot of unfair criticism in many instances where he can't possibly do right for doing wrong!'"
Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
I think the Chinese call it ying and yang
Up the cats = Ying
Willazy = Yang
Certainly a great win though, KC FM in meltdown again
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| Quote ="Willzay"Unfair criticism what a load of tosh'"
Terrible peformances week after week tend to make me critical. I get stick for being constantly negative. OK well done. If you win at Hull that is a great win and a great effort when its all been going badly wrong in the weeks leading up to it. The citicism was justified, not unfair. Today..good effort, well done. Lets see what happens for the rest of the season. Most of all, well done to the fans who had the guts to risk more dismal misery and got a nice surpise. I couldnt take it to be fair so I hold my hands up. Must try harder.
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| Quote ="supercat"Said in another thread we have been with a lesser team and won. On paper this team Looks half decent once they all get firing and working for each other then wins will come more frequent.'"
I hope you are right. I think the players we have look decent on paper too, hence my belief Agar is the wrong man, given our perfomances this year and last. I've read this is typical Agar; always comes up with a win when he's on the edge of the sack(not that he was, though he ought to have been), maybe thats true. Maybe not. Always said, happy for him to pove me wrong. I take no joy in seeing Trinity get spanked. Ill kiss his feet if he turns it ound or anything else...just hasn't looked likely that will happen over the past 2 1/2 yrs to me and it will take a bit more than today to make me feel otherwise.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think the Chinese call it ying and yang
Up the cats = Ying
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Certainly a great win though, KC FM in meltdown again
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Indeed. I thought I was negative
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"Really pleased for Agar and the team. I have understood the fans frustrations and also emphasised with Agar. The players haven't been good enough and Agar has made some calls I wouldn't have gone with.
Whether you are Agar in or Agar out let's just give credit to 23 unanswered points, a win and a scoreless defensive second half. Well done Agar and well done the players for roughing out a great win.
There has been some justified and some unjustified criticism of Agar from people. It can be a lonely place for a coach. Well done Rich and I hope this continues for you'"
Yes. Ive been firmly in the Agar out camp but it would be churlish to be down on a day like today. I couldnt believe what I was listening to and though I wish Id had the moral fortitude to risk another afternoon of grinding frustration, the sound of the Trinity fans on Radio Humberside was incredible and lifted my spirits from the dismay of the NM fiasco and themany awful performancs of this season.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
Wy dont you give it a rest Vasty you clown!
Just as I thought you couldnt get any dumber following you quoting my post on the 6 & 7 thread you go and trump yourself....
Your credibility as a poster on these boards to me is now ZERO....
Shame, because however controversial you have been on this board and others in the past I've always had respect for you.....gone now though without any shadow of a doubt....
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
I have never been in the pro Agar space... But this is just silly!
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
Whight coat time for you Vasty
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| Over 10 pages on Redford out on the hull page
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| I for one not gonna change my mind on agar.yes we played better yestersay esp in defence but we wasnt that good till 25 mins to go.we never looked like we gonna score.to me the officals changed the game more than agar we got some bad calls then hull got a try from a clesr forward pass and that seemed to change us.also had mcshsne not got injured would godinet been on pitch so long cos he was our bedt player for me
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www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/27278207
Not surprised - listen to that interview, in which he twice appears to blame the crowd for the poor performance, and claims that he had every single Wakefield player offered to him, but passed.
I'm not always enamoured by RA's post-match interviews, but that's just bizarre.
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Not surprised - listen to that interview, in which he twice appears to blame the crowd for the poor performance, and claims that he had every single Wakefield player offered to him, but passed.
I'm not always enamoured by RA's post-match interviews, but that's just bizarre.
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| Quote ="bren2k"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/27278207
Not surprised - listen to that interview, in which he twice appears to blame the crowd for the poor performance, and claims that he had every single Wakefield player offered to him, but passed.
I'm not always enamoured by RA's post-match interviews, but that's just bizarre.'"
Acts like a dead man walking, good win by the way, said in another thread don't be surprised if you won as we cant put back to back performances in this season at all. Don't fall into the Agar trap, loads of times whilst at Hull we produced the odd great performance, then weeks of poor ones. You have a decent side on paper and shouldn't be the position you are.
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| I'm still not sure if R As the man or not, but he's the one in the job and for that he gets my support. He seems to be constantly under the cosh from some supporters, but on the whole I find it difficult to agree with the majority of the complaints. Every decision taken will be taken based on reason , and what seems strange may not be the case. As a fan I long to be asssosiated with a well run, successful , structured , and forward thinking club. On the field it would be great to finish in the top four, have a fantastic home record and reach th cc cup final . In general I think from what we had at the season start the clubs achieved and before we dump the coach it would be nice for R A to have a problem free start to a season. On the club off field activities lets hope things are on the up and stability can be achieved. With the introduction of relegation it's more important than ever the club remain focused on achieving a SL position next season, and that for me will be a success.we can then look forward to a another season in the top flight and hopefully plan accordingly in the off season. I think Widnes have done a great job over the last 3seasons. I know they had no threat of relegation, but they set their stall out and have steadily built season after season. They are now what seems to be in a position of strength, and starting to re sight many of the playing staff and see great results on the field. Lets get behind the club for the remainder of the season, show our support and unite.
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| Great result short term, particularly with Bradford also winning, long term not so much. Pressure somewhat relieved on Agar meaning his unlikely departure is now even further away.
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| Quote ="BD"One good win and [uall is forgiven[/u?'"
Ha, I don't think so.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Ha, I don't think so.'"
Why don't you return to the Hull site you currently have more people interested in what you have to say. I regret even there you don't appear to generate much support because they have moved on and have greater issues than Agar. I do see some connection between you and some on the Hull board because they are asking for a new coach and questionning his positional choices.
I wouldn't worry we are not going to win every game so you will have more opportunities to spread your philosophy.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Wy dont you give it a rest Vasty you clown!
Just as I thought you couldnt get any dumber following you quoting my post on the 6 & 7 thread you go and trump yourself....
Your credibility as a poster on these boards to me is now ZERO....
Shame, because however controversial you have been on this board and others in the past I've always had respect for you.....gone now though without any shadow of a doubt....'"
Good because I have no time for people like you either - zero credibility, as if I care
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"I have never been in the pro Agar space... But this is just silly!'"
Why? Does it put everything right - was it even Agars doing?
I started the year zero thread so I'm willing to give him a chance but to say all is now right and he was unfairly treated then NO he wasn't.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Whight coat time for you Vasty'"
If you're going to make mindless replies at least don't compound it with atrocious spelling
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| Even after an unexpected win people are moaning, no matter how much we all moan on herr nothing will change just behind the lads!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Even after an unexpected win people are moaning, no matter how much we all moan on herr nothing will change just behind the lads!'"
Who's moaning I'm delighted.
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