The rumours regarding Bulls not making the start of SL 2014 are very strong indeed. Add in the factor that London are currently training with only 11 juniors onboard with 6 weeks to kick-off.

What's the betting on a 12 team league for 2014 and one-up one-down system in 2015 ?

Seem to think MC said at the last meeting it was a signed agreement?

Plus the small matter of 1.2M of central funding difference...

Go on then I'll bite?

1.2M difference is this in reference to the Sky money BB aren't getting because the RFL bought the iconic odsal and are therefore not dishing out Sky money to retrieve their cash back?

If it is then it 1.2m over 2 years of which only 1 of those years has passed and it negates the 1.2m given to the bulls in hidden loans that were then recouped by the RFL taking over the lease of the "Iconic" odsall landfill stadium

That'll be it, and you can probably add in another £0.5m that the former Directors trousered after the broadcaster, former players, other clubs and most shamefully, their own fans, chucked into the begging buckets last season.

No slight on the fans of the club by the way - I feel for them - but OK's and to a lesser extent AG's conduct makes a strong case for the fortunes of a club to be separate from the fortunes of a singe wealthy owner; it seems unfair that clubs can be brought to their knees by these people, dragging others down with them, only for them to walk away relatively unscathed, whilst the club is left in ruins.

I hope Bradford can be saved and hopefully, they'll cut their cloth appropriately and attempt to rebuild.

No. The money last year was shared between the other SL clubs (a decision made by the other SL clubs), now that really was shameful.

1.2m wasn't the amount shared out, it was half that and then shared between 13 clubs so that using my calculator makes a difference in central funding of a little over £46k HTH

Right so your original post was in reference to how we found ourselves in the brown stuff with financial matters and owners compared to Bradford, and how we were "fortunate" to have Glover who let go off his directors loans unlike OK.. and how we would be in deeper trouble if we had an owner like OK.

You then stated we would be in a worse posistion if there wasn't a 1.2m central funding difference between ourselves.

Now after clarifying yourself on this matter this is not the case.. but perhaps you should lay out what you are actually referring to rather than just a one-liner that is open to all kind of interpretation.

off you go and get your buckets out!! i posted on bulls forum 2 months ago about your paddle and a certain creek! but hey ! kopzak sykes and whitehead are all better off now !

Well 646k difference surely?

Small fry considering the £1.2m of additional central funding Bradford got the season before last.

I know it was along time ago but I seem to recall that when we first got into SL we were only allowed to if we agreed to receive NONE of the SKY money for the first two seasons, so forgive me if I don't feel sorry for bradford who still get half and could have let some of their squad go last year to cover the difference

So not 1.2m then

Well by the end of this year it will be more than 1.2M.

so would you like to go back to your original post and edit it accordingly?
And for the record it could be 1.8m by the end of this year as you will need to fulfil all your fixtures to get your 2014 money

No it will be nil for the reasons previously mentioned.

Be very careful here, if I remember rightly all the teams in the "championship" gave us a certain amount of money to help us try and to survive, something we should always appreciate.

So we're looking at around 1.3M difference in funding. When I was at school that was a lot closer to the 46k you came up with on your calculator.

And I don't think it's really too wise making clever comments about our ability to fulfil fixtures given your own recent financial troubles, do you?

Are you referring to the sale of Odsal to the RFL?

My comment was specifically about a share of the SKY money for SL clubs, so how we managed to cover the shortfall is a different matter. Of course, if the other NFP teams assisted us then they have my gratitude.

The sale of the lease yes. Do you reckon Bradford would've got anywhere near that amount if they sold it to anyone else?

I haven't the foggiest, I don't have any experience of stadia valuation. Do you?

Well it's not really of much use to any else. No change as far as the Bulls are concerned, they're still tenants with sympathetic landlords so it was money for nothing in reality.

It was still shameful. That money should have gone to either grass roots RL or to the international game, not to the fellow SL clubs. It's a form of cannibalism!