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| It's very difficult when an organisation with a tarnished reputation is taken over by new owners; I've been in a similar position in a professional capacity and it took me two years of hard work, schmoozing and PR to remove the stink - by far the most effective of those by the way, was hard work; going about what (to me) was a new business with integrity, honesty and transparency and letting people see for themselves that we were doing things in a different way.
It's irksome when the club is referred to (take a look at the nutty forum) as 'scroungers' and the misdeeds of past regimes are levelled at the new one, but the only healer will be an honest operator and time - eventually, people will see that MC is (hopefully) doing the right thing and faith will be restored based on what's happening now, not what happened in the past.
In the meantime, it would be a good gesture if the club dedicated one of the first home games of the season to Wakefield Hospice and made sure there were bucket collections and such in the ground - and if I were MC, I'd be on the phone to them now to get that set up so that if this does go to the media, they're compelled to say that the new owner has taken steps to repair the damage.
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| You've got to feel for MC and all associated with the club at the moment, He must be sat there thinking wtf have done to disserve all this.
Stick at it MC and I hope it doesn't spoil your Christmas.
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| I wouldn't worry about MC - accountants don't have feelings!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I wouldn't worry about MC - accountants don't have feelings!'"
You idiot!!!
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"You idiot!!!'"
Did the omission of a smiley face trigger your sense of humour bypass?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Did the omission of a smiley face trigger your sense of humour bypass?'"
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"Yes'"
You'll have to work on that - I'm not 14, so I tend not to use them.
For the avoidance of doubt - I know that accountants do actually have feelings and I would not discourage anyone from feeling worried about MC's mental or emotional wellbeing; it were a joke.
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| It's a shame in the real sense of the word.
I was one of those who said it was harmful to post such negativity about the club. I still think that is the case as is harmful but equally I didn't realise they were this bad.
I hope we can do something to help and I hope the story cones out naming the correct people.
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| Whilst I am on a short break I would say this. As soon as we found out we paid the hospice. I will gladly explain the whole story in person to anyone that wants to know. As usual there are 2 sides to every tale. And I've read the internet page with interest. The matter is now with the clubs lawyers.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Whilst I am on a short break I would say this. As soon as we found out we paid the hospice. I will gladly explain the whole story in person to anyone that wants to know. As usual there are 2 sides to every tale. And I've read the internet page with interest. The matter is now with the clubs lawyers.'"
Now I'm confused you say as soon as you took over, so to speak, you paid the hospice yet it seems you are saying the club wasnt entirely to blame?
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| Quote ="bren2k"You'll have to work on that - I'm not 14, so I tend not to use them.
For the avoidance of doubt - I know that accountants do actually have feelings and I would not discourage anyone from feeling worried about MC's mental or emotional wellbeing; it were a joke.'"
Sorry for the comment,
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"Sorry for the comment,'"
Man up! Don't apologise!
See Bren, that's how you do it.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Now I'm confused you say as soon as you took over, so to speak, you paid the hospice yet it seems you are saying the club wasnt entirely to blame?'"
At a guess I would say that DC is referring to what I was alluding to in my first post, ie. the defamatory comment on the website which, given that the matter has been resolved, is a little out of order.
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| It hasn't been resolved though has it ? What makes you think that it's been resolved ??
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| Quote ="PHe"Disgusted as all other posters on here. I think that MC has to be proactive on this one with regard to public relations, because I feel that it will be in the media next week (Express at least) and he has to go on a damage limitation exercise with regard to WT and deflect the blame to the real 'guilty' individuals.
The other point is what we , as fans can do. For the retailer we could buy via the club shop the traditional shirts (with a guarantee to our supplier).
We as fans could also do our bit by raising funds for the charities concerned by the traditional ways (walks etc), but perhaps a match day/fund raising day when we play perhaps Broncos or Les Cats. I haven't looked at the fixtures, but if it is a few months away it could be organised in order to give the most beneficial effect.
Would someone like to pick up the baton with regard to thoughts/ideas?'"
A further thought, only one at this time of night, with regard to charity fundraising, there could be a challenge linked in with a league match. My choice would be versus Castleford and a Hospice challenge (I would have split loyalties on this one) and I know it would 'cut across' the current series in relation to the big man, but I'm certain Adam would approve.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"It hasn't been resolved though has it ? What makes you think that it's been resolved ??'"
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Quote ="Daddycool"As soon as we found out we paid the hospice.'"
It would seem that DC is saying the money owed to the Hospice has been paid therefore IMO and possibly legaly, it's wrong to publicly state on a website that Wakefield Trinity still owe the money to the hospice.
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"This
It would seem that DC is saying the money owed to the Hospice has been paid therefore IMO and possibly legaly, it's wrong to publicly state on a website that Wakefield Trinity still owe the money to the hospice.'"
Ok so where does he say that?
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| Quote ="1 4 the road"Ok so where does he say that?'"
read his last post....
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"read his last post....'"
No I meant where does the guy who does the shirts say that WTW owe money to the hospice?
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| Quote ="PHe"A further thought, only one at this time of night, with regard to charity fundraising, there could be a challenge linked in with a league match. My choice would be versus Castleford and a Hospice challenge (I would have split loyalties on this one) and I know it would 'cut across' the current series in relation to the big man, but I'm certain Adam would approve.'"
I walked with Adam and is son to Cas in aid of Sky Marie, a young Cas fan who needed some help.
You are right Adam would approve of this, no doubt at all.
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It would seem that DC is saying the money owed to the Hospice has been paid therefore IMO and possibly legaly, it's wrong to publicly state on a website that Wakefield Trinity still owe the money to the hospice.'"
He still hasn't been paid though has he ?
Or doesn't that matter ?
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| I'd suggest if MC says they have been paid, that they have been paid, or all the good work so far would have been for nothing. I'm sure it's just that the website hasn't been updated.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"He still hasn't been paid though has he ?
Or doesn't that matter ?'"
Where have I said He's been paid?
This is the bit that is suspect:
Quote In total 170 shirts were sold and to this day neither the hospice or myself for the manufacturing costs have received full payment.'"
DC says that the Hospice has been paid, so I think that line on the sites website is defamatory and even if true when originally written it should have been changed when the hospice was paid.
I have great sympathy for the manufacturer/seller as well and hope he recovers his money but there seems to be an attempt to garner support and indignation by including the hospice. Without the hospice this is just another supplier who was shafted by Elston.
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| But you were saying that it had been resolved - clearly it hasn't ( but I take your point about the hospice payment ).
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