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| Think we need Mole Rat to help with this one, he is in the know
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| Noticed he was not on the advertisement poster the one of the new college courses earlier this week, where he has been the face of all the advertisements before but then again he was pictured training with all the lads earlier this week. If he's gone he's gone hopefully he will be the last, debts sorted time to move on and rebuild.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"to salford been told today'"
If true this cull is worse than the last 1 btw why is it taking so long to announce new signings at the mo we're not even guna av enough to train as a team and work out plays
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Noticed he was not on the advertisement poster the one of the new college courses earlier this week, where he has been the face of all the advertisements before but then again he was pictured training with all the lads earlier this week. If he's gone he's gone hopefully he will be the last, debts sorted time to move on and rebuild.'"
This, still think MC will sort our club out. God will bless our club
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| i accept there will be out goings so far who have gone I think are replaceable A leader a local lad Our captain is not. But guys its all our fault not getting 3 thou members! Do me a favour. Kirmond going would be the last straw for me cannot be bothad anymore.
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| Why the urgency to offload the players before the supporter's meeting.
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| Have some patience. Lets see what the team looks like come Boxing Day before we start doom and glooming.
Players move on, even star players move on but the club remains and those players are replaced. Lets see when the club are ready to start building a team what we actually have.
No reason to be uber negative based on your own speculations of what we will look like come start of next season. The likely product could very well be much different to what you are anticipating. I'll make my judgements when the squad is assembled and we have the 2014 team ready to take to the field.
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| As fans we are all cheesed off about the situation but what must Agar be thinking about it all he's also been shafted by the previous toot & ploot regime running the club. Back to Kirmond apparently he wants to stay and not go to Salford and the figure I was told was two hundred k.
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| Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back? Fed up now.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"Not a stalker but I am able to read the list of users online. It is not a clever thing, well not in the real world. I have read some of your posts are you related to MC because your loyalty goes beyond that of a normal person.'"
I think you should be very careful in your application of the concept of "normal".
But, generally, why all the increase in doom and gloom based on something that someone might have heard. Be patient - the scaremongering doesn't help and what will be will be.
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| It's far easier to blame MC for this rather than AG/JE.
Is it not?
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| I thought we were 'building the team around DK'? I can take losing Aiton, Smith, Poore, they all had their off games but Kirmond always gave 100% and seemed Wakefield through and through! If he's gone then I can't see the club selling many more season tickets!
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| i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then the 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.
all it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans
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| hes the ken bates of rugby league
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| Quote ="gapshire12345"i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then the 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.
all it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans'"
Fair enough but i would ask do you support Wakefield Trinity RLFC or names in shirts?
Don't know what honest fans have done to deserve this gapshire, we deserve better after all the crap we've been through over the years.
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| yes we do deserve better, el rey , but its true , we are being lied to all the time,
dont you agree,
when he said if we sell 3000 st no one would go, i rushed out and signed up for 2 platinums,
680 pound ,do you think its fair on me now all the players have gone wich i paid to watch.
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| Forget about Kirmond going it may never happen, it may be a rumour.
However its the wider picture that interests me. We are selling players and clubs
are willing to buy them and pay transfer fees. However people are happy with that
because they think when we stop selling we will go out and build a team with new players.
Who are these players ? and why are the clubs that are buying ours not signing them ?
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| Quote ="El Rey"Fair enough but i would ask do you support Wakefield Trinity RLFC or names in shirts?'"
Personally, the job I have is a very demanding and time consuming one, I am always bringing work home and far too often have to offload the kids at weekends to get caught up. Going to watch Wakey takes a good four plus hours from my family time, sorry but I am not willing to give that up to watch a selling, uncompetitive club that just keeps letting us fans down. I need to see evidence that we want to compete next year and all I'm currently seeing is evidence that we are setting ourselves up to be Leeds 'dual reg' team in the Championship.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Forget about Kirmond going it may never happen, it may be a rumour.
However its the wider picture that interests me. We are selling players and clubs
are willing to buy them and pay transfer fees. However people are happy with that
because they think when we stop selling we will go out and build a team with new players.
Who are these players ? and why are the clubs that are buying ours not signing them ?'"
Good point Jack.
Of course the Kirmo thing is just rumour at present but, IF we've sold him for 200k, then its good business, regardless of the fact that he's our captain.
However, what/who we will have next season is going to make the Kear squad of 3 seasons ago, look like world beaters and it's certainly going to test the "loyalty" of even our most die hard fans.
The silence from the club on the website is deafening and I have to say that our new management are not giving anything whatsoever to the fans right now.
An interesting tactic for boosting income and generating S/T sales
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| Quote ="gapshire12345"i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then [uthe 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.[/uall it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans'"
But if your figure is correct, it still doesn't help the current situation, those savings are for next season not today. If HMRC come calling or the gas bill arrives on the doormat, what do you pay them with?
The money we get from transfer fees, season ticket and merchandise sales, sponsors daft enough to pay now before the season starts etc is what pays the £400k we needed to pay bills (and this figure is apparently rising as items 'come out of the woodwork')
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| Quote ="18th Man"[uPersonally, the job I have is a very demanding and time consuming one[/u, I am always bringing work home and far too often have to offload the kids at weekends to get caught up. Going to watch Wakey takes a good four plus hours from my family time, sorry but I am not willing to give that up to watch a selling, uncompetitive club that just keeps letting us fans down. I need to see evidence that we want to compete next year and all I'm currently seeing is evidence that we are setting ourselves up to be Leeds 'dual reg' team in the Championship.'"
Tut tut
With regard to the second part, as I have said previously on another post, we've 3 months to go, a little patience is in order. Now go and change a nappy, that will keep you busy
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| Quote ="PHe"But if your figure is correct, it still doesn't help the current situation, those savings are for next season not today. If HMRC come calling or the gas bill arrives on the doormat, what do you pay them with?
The money we get from transfer fees, season ticket and merchandise sales, sponsors daft enough to pay now before the season starts etc is what pays the £400k we needed to pay bills (and this figure is apparently rising as items 'come out of the woodwork')'"
Yes I've heard the same. However The dynamic duo have been gone for quite a while now and carter has been in charge a good three months. Seems a bit strange that people who are owed money have waited all this time to start demands.
I would have thought they would have an accurate financial picture long before now. Still we can only accept what we are told, time will tell.
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| 5 pages of what could just be a rumour, Danny was at the book launch yesterday not sure if anyone asked him or not
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| Wow melt down over an unconfirmed rumour
Players come players go look at the club site from 1963 is the club still here?
There's more to life than being suicidal on sport whilst there is a club to watch I will be there regardless
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Good point Jack.
Of course the Kirmo thing is just rumour at present but, IF we've sold him for 200k, then its good business, regardless of the fact that he's our captain.'"
I would like DK to stay, but if we've sold him for 200k then its sad but is good business. I like everyone on here would love to keep him but if the reality his keep him or save the club? for me its Trinity every time. The 2012 squad was cobbled together, they started off slowly, defensively a shambles but reasonable going forward. As the season progressed, confidence grew and they over achieved. Aiton, T. Smith, Amor and Kirmond were all brought in and gambled upon. They clicked, Smith turned out to be a good signing, Amor developed from a prospect to a first team player and Kirmond became a good player and captain. He started to show his qualities. He also put back a little local pride, a local lad as captain. Over achieving obviously led to us running before we could walk. This coupled with a load of waffle from a double glazing salesman (never trust a double glazing salesman). Its really sad to see this core of a team disbanded but its better than seeing Trinity close down for good.
None of these players were here three years ago but the club was. It brushed itself down and started again. I don't know if MC is here for the long term, I'm pretty sure he doesn't. But if he can make the club into a business that operates within its budget and put it on an even keel then I'm happy he's here at the moment. If you've built once you can always build again, its just it hurts a bit more as you get older.
Saying all that I'd love to keep DK and build a team around him, local players who care and want to play for Trinity, supplimented with a few quality players. Oh............ and World peace.
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