Asset stripping or cloth cutting?
I'll ask again, what is plan b?
As far as I can see, when you don't have the dough - someone has to go.
I'll await your in depth synopsis!

i offered my services to Daddycool by PM on september 27th and 29th offering to help man the shop or ring round season ticket holders. still waiting for a reply. because of my circumstances now its probably too late for me, but if the cost of staffing the shop or the one at the ground is a problem, why not use volunteers?

I think you will find he is still the majority share holder and therefore owns the club. If the shares were bought by the current board they would need to be approved by the RFL just like Bradford were.

At the end of the day a lot the problems that still remain are still issues left from Glover and Elston, So things wont change over night we all no it has been a case of jobs for friends and family during that time, majority of the admin staff reception etc where Sarah's friends.

Give it time to see Carters full effect on the day to day running, He cant just walk in and sack everyone. I do think its getting to the point where the club needs to just sell who they need to and start again.

If the club end up selling Kirmond it would be better now than in two/three months time when the club doesn't have time to adjust and the players will need time to adapt to playing without him.

I stand by my theory of questioning everything the club does, whoever is in charge. Not much has happened to question yet. Players sold as we expected, and what else?

(There's a great irony in at least one poster here bagging (to use a colloquialism) the last mob when they are one of the first to post kissing the backsides of anyone in charge, then changing their tune when it all goes wrong. Those who were in live with Shane McNally then stabbed him in the back when he left are just utter cretins. And that's just one example.)

This offer and similar ones should be taken up by the club especially at this time of year spread paid staff with volunteers to 7 days a week if possible!

I don't know details regarding HR and legislation, but if we have made staff redundant etc, their 'work' should also have gone. If the 'work' is still there as would be so by having another body (eg volunteers) doing the work, then could the original staff go to a tribunal etc.

As I say I'm no expert in this respect, perhaps someone could clarify/put me right.

Are they the same person?

Have to say I also emailed MC with some ideas re marketing. I'm still waiting for a "thanks I will have a look at that reply". It's alright asking fans for help or suggestions but it would be nice to know if the club actually received the mail?

I agree entirely, but this used to happen at the club when we had 10 times more staff

So do we know how many people have left the club without being replaced in the last 3 months? Because when this was asked on the website Q&A Carters answer was typically wooly and didn't really answer the question.

Dear Mr Carter, Best course of action for you is to get out, enjoy life & let the wonderful people on here run the club. New sponsors would then be Nostrop. Happy Days. Yours sincerely.

And i stand by you, standing by your theory.


If i could think of anything other than what is going on to get us from a - b i would have suggested it to MC but i cant and to get from a - b is a must.
I don't see the point in bagging something wthout having a plan b to consider, if we had - things maight be different.

I'll take that as i dont have a plan b then shall i?
Seriously...a dignified silence might just be in order!

Agreed! The blokes doing it to the best of his ability. I cant see anyone else willing to step up and until they do, MC will have to continue to do what he feels is best?

If he hadnt been left with such a complete and utter mess of a club he wouldnt have to strip it of its assets. He is doing what he sees fit, which is to run the club to a budget that we can afford.

Do I recall Agent XIII saying that he had a plan but then never bothering to tell anyone what it was or did I imagine that??

The plan is to go fishing and he's bagged up.

Never thought James was like that.

When people who put their money ..lives into clubs and then get the only reward of abuse ..is it any wonder that anybody who can help wont !

Tbf there's only one person doing any criticism and most people can see through him more than the invisible man.
As for people coming in to help if you mean invest that will start to happen when they can see that we are solvent and well managed. Sadly to get there we are having to go through the rough stuff and nobody likes or wants that.
I wouldn't want to be doing the job MC is doing presently and I'm sure he could find less stressful things to do with his time.
I know (or at least expect) that there is likely to be more pain to come, the income or lack of it dictates that but at some point we will hit bedrock and be able to start to look forward and with NM still very much on the horizon we will be of interest to someone I'm sure.

Totally agree, long term we will be in a better position and with NM on the horizon the future could be very bright

I did suggest that once he made the first announcement back in August it signalled the end of significant ST sales. You are to a great extent talking to the converted who would support any team regardless of their standard providing they wore the red, white and blue. The converted are however not the people you need to convince as I have stated many times. We now learn that despite offers of help no one at the club could be bothered to make contact, not good public relations.
I would ask remove the rose tinted goggles and ask yourselves how does it look to the majority of Wakefield supporters and the RL in general. I guess we are adopting the George Osbourne theory of plan A at all costs regardless of the negative impact on the club as a whole. Plan A appears to involve keep selling players but for every player that goes it will effect the support and reduce the number of ST sold.
I also note we are back on the investors are there but this time it's not to do with the people running the club but the fact that we need to be seen to be solvent. I guess this suits your argument however, most investors want to be associated with a successful club not one struggling in front of smaller crowds. I suppose like the mythical four waiting for Elston to leave before they would invest it will be interesting to see if this comes to fruition.
The current board have been in situ three months and have only been successful in selling quite a few of the first team squad and sign one former Leeds academy player. You appear to have some inside knowledge or indicate you do, so give us some positives, when are we going to make a signing how much of the original debt is still outstanding.

I believe that the current board are out of their depth and appear to be just circling the wagons in a hope that it all turns out well. I have not seen or read anything that would suggest they have a plan. I have read that they don't reply to people offering their services, have problems with the phone and e-mail systems but once again not letting people know and have no strategy to push season ticket sales. We are selling players which only demoralises a club like Wakefield and with no plan on obtaining replacements. I think that currently we will be uncompetitive performing in front of smaller and more dissatisfied supporters.
On the other side some of you believe they have things under control, we can stand to lose more of the first team squad and will still survive and prosper in Super League. Investors will join the club once everything is financially sorted.
You will be surprised to know I hope you are right but only time will tell.
Just for clarification I don't fish but I do think for myself. I also have a season ticket for WT and have done so for many years. I was there when the club was changed from a members to limited (I abstained), I was there when we voted on the merger (I voted against) and many others so I think I am entitled to give my view because I have seen both the good and the bad of running the club. How many of you have supported the club for over 40years.
A prime example of pointless statements are those of B Briggs Ghost whose only argument is to say if you question the board they should like in a school yard take their ball and go home and we should just be happy to continue to pay our money.

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Come on Agent XIII - If you have a better plan now is the time to let people in on it.

I don't think anyone is overly happy with the current situation and having to sell players but you fail to come up with an alternative (unless it is to stop selling players and just not pay any debts/wages and then go into the black hole of Admin again???)