Who says sky will pay the same for 12 teams as they do for 14, with the potential loss of subscribers?,its not like they have any competition.

I think WTW like most other clubs tossed a coin on which way they should vote.

That's only my opinion mate, I've not got a clue and certainly not in the know.

I'd rather be in Hetheringotn's pocket (not that I really care if we are or not) than be in Elston's for a third time.

I agree with you. RL totally reliant on Sky.

If they wanted to be associated with the top teams they would have walked out with 6 of the top 8 wouldn't they?

At any other time I would agree on your second point, but given our very weak position at the moment our stance seems strange to say the least.

I would agree with this, but still believe she has an agenda. Whereas Elston was just incompetent.

Well, where do Sky make their money???

Friday night RL has the second highest viewing of any other slot on Sky sports

I aren't an intelligent man and never claim to be

but I reckon that's reason enough for them to keep RL on their books.

And I only assume that 12 teams will get more sky funding each than 14 teams. No logic other than a common sense assumption.

If we knew everything there wouldn't be a forum

I meant on the field as opposed to off it, though I never considered that. Did Leeds walk out???

I don;t think it's viable at such a high profile meeting to say "we oppose cause we might get relegated" ...though that's purely opinion

Whether she has, or hasn't, I believe she has a track record of not running RL clubs into administration. We should question everything the club does, regardless of who is in charge, but I feel a lot safer about the long term future of the club now, than in the last two/three years.

The proposals lead to a slight tv income increase for the championship clubs paid for from the tv money saved from the two relegated clubs. There would be no increase in tv money for the remaining SL clubs.

There would though be two less home games a season, which leads to less value in a season ticket so lower prices there, plus less exposure for club sponsors. Wakefield voting for a reduction is like a turkey voting for christmas.

In a way I agree. I just up the agenda isn't to gently run the club down to long term safety and stability in the lower leagues.

No Leeds were the only top 8 team that was present that did not walk out, the other being St. Helens who were no present, also no representative from castleford present.

They walked out because it was not supposed to be a high profile meeting and the structure was not supposed to be on the agenda at all until after the World Cup is over.

If you are a cas fan? Would you want such a major vote being taken without your clubs vote being considered?

if you ask me a decision has already been made regardless of the vote

The decision cannot be made without a vote. If the clubs block the proposals it won't happen.

Agreed.

Bingo.
Wakey, Leeds and Widnes have a connection can anyone guess what it is?
As you say you owe the RFL as does Salford by all accounts and London are desperate to get a dispensation to even field a team in 2014 never mind after that.

Are you saying all the teams that walked out are financial powerhouses.

not sure where you get that assertion from

No because...............I didn't say anything of the kind

Not an assertion just believe that is what they think they are.

He's meaning the Hetherington connection!
Not sure how that fits in with the thread though!

I think I am too thick to be on here with all the intellectuals.

So Turkeys do vote for Christmas sometimes....

I have the full Sky package because of RL. I cannot be alone in that. If they took RL from it, I doubt I would keep Sports on, even though it is only a few quid add-on from the Movies. I would probably get a basic package, and rely on Netflix and Premier Sports for my needs.

I'm sure I am not unique in that.

And of course there is the advertising revenue generated through premium slots for a sport that continually produces healthy figures for Sky,

The same with football, the bond is one of mutual dependency (albeit not nearly as crucial for Sky as it is for RL)