I know other sports and other countries do it but it still doesn't make it right. I don't really give a toss what, for example, the England Cricket team do or the Fijian Rugby League team do.

Rugby League is the sport I'm interested in, England is my home nation. I would like the English Rugby League team to be made up of English Rugby League players no matter what other sports/nations are doing. If that means we don't win then so be it, but if there is a team of ENGLISH players giving their all then I'll be satisfied.

I know others have other opinions and this is just mine but I refuse to support a team that is made up of non-English players.

I actually agree with most of the choices tbh, never expected Kirmond to get (nor did I expect Ferres or Crabtree either). Although Hock and Kirmond play the same position they are difficult to compare - Hock is a gamble, an impact player who can potentially turn a game (as well as cock it up) but we need to take gambles to win this cup over Aus and NZ - would also put Chase in a similar category. Kirmond would do a job but hasn't played at that level before and he's been playing with multiple injuries for the back half of the season, so I think its fair that he hasn't made it.

Those anti-railing England because they don't like McNamara or the choices he has made must have a really enjoyable life. Really sad imo.

some good points

Ah, the old "I hope England loose because X player should have been included instead of Y" very mature. I don't understand the mentality of the average run of the mill rugby league fan, almost wishing the demise of the sport just to prove some blinkered viewpoint.

I bet it's the same people that:

Hope London fail.
Rubbed their hands when Crusaders went tits.
Wanted P&R when it looked like we wouldn't get a franchise
Now want franchising cos it looks like we could get relegated next term.
Didn't want the Froggies in.

It's these sort of attitudes that will see the game wither and die with pit village V pit village before you know it. We have the greatest sporting product by far, but the game is run and supported by far too many doylems for it to prosper. Compare and contrast to RU.

So how long do they have to have been here to be English in your opinion?
Do they have to be born here? Society has changed and that doesn't work any more.

Never gives a stuff about international games personally.

Can't get into it. I don't necessarily support rugby league as a whole either. I support Wakey and I still get the excitement and anticipation on the terraces at BV.

So although it would have been nice to see a Wakey player or 2 there I really don't care that much.

I'd like to see the re-introduction of team GB.

I agree that the likes of Chase shouldn't be in the team, clearly not English. Makes a mockery of it all.

If we are to have a level playing field anyone that qualifies on residency and is good enough should be selected. The Aussies and Kiwi's have been poaching players for years from different country's so why shouldn't we.

Brough was never going to be in given he stated he had made available for Scotland. I don't mind his lack if selection as despite being a stand out in SL when he has come up against the bigger teams in games that count he has gone missing.

Kirmond is a tough one. The pack is certainly our strongest part of the squad. For me it is a direct shoot out between Kirmond and Ablett. I assume he has gone for Ablett because he can cover centre. I think if Reed was fit Kirmond would have got in. Farrell is in excellent form again and I think due to his style is not in direct competition with Kirmond.

I would have preferred to see Luke Burgess in over Hill, but all in all I think the squad is not far off as good as we could have hoped for.

Personally regardless who is selected cannot wait for the World Cup.

only a wigan fan could shout up farrel he will be chicken feed to the aussies im afraid ,apologies will be there if he provesa me wrong

Farrell had a 100% tackle success rate for something ridiculous like the first 10 games of the year.

He also lead the clean break chart for a similar period.

Wigan this year unlike previous years have been conditioned to peak and the whole teams form dropped off for the second half of the season. As they have been brought back to peak form he has been back to that kind of form.

Will he get in the 17? Not sure, it's probably between Westwood and him. Maybe Saturday will be the deciding factor of who becomes the leader in the race for the shirt.

The only brother born in Wakey mmm...

You can throw as many stats as you like about Farrel I'm talking about how the Aussies and kiwis will handle him and in my opinion he will be easy meat for them

you're joking !! been busy not seen the squad but cannot believe he is in there he is a liability

Liam Farrell is too small IMO, same for Kirmond not international standard I do think the pack picks itself and that is our strong point the backs are what I think is the problem.

Jack Reed injury is a massive blow for England in the centre.

Yes

Totally agree on that one

O'loghlin.?Has his leg suddenly got match fit

If a big NRL Club came in and offered £150k for Danny Kirmond I'd let him go his international career would then also take off and we'd be out of the smelly stuff.

Great player and should at least be in the England Squad.

I just wanted to say that I agree with all this. I'd call them muppets, but Kermit et al have far more sense.

Well put

Quote ="Willzay"No Kirmond in the england squad'" No Danny Kirmond even in the England Knights Squad and Brad Singleton in there! Crazy absolutely crazy. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... -1-6106878 This should even more media newsworthy as it simply does not make sense unless he is injured and made himself unavailable. It was mentioned only 3 months ago in the tabloids when we beat Widnes.. Special Danny Kirmond lifts Wakefield Wildcats over Widnes DANNY KIRMOND’S absence from the England squad continues to raise eyebrows – but there is no denying his effect on Wakefield

Quote ="Willzay"No Kirmond in the england squad'" No Danny Kirmond even in the England Knights Squad and Brad Singleton in there! Crazy absolutely crazy. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... -1-6106878 This should even more media newsworthy as it simply does not make sense unless he is injured and made himself unavailable. It was mentioned only 3 months ago in the tabloids when we beat Widnes.. Special Danny Kirmond lifts Wakefield Wildcats over Widnes DANNY KIRMOND’S absence from the England squad continues to raise eyebrows – but there is no denying his effect on Wakefield

Quote ="asmadasa"No Danny Kirmond even in the England Knights Squad and Brad Singleton in there! Crazy absolutely crazy. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... -1-6106878 This should even more media newsworthy as it simply does not make sense unless he is injured and made himself unavailable. It was mentioned only 3 months ago in the tabloids when we beat Widnes.. Special Danny Kirmond lifts Wakefield Wildcats over Widnes DANNY KIRMOND’S absence from the England squad continues to raise eyebrows – but there is no denying his effect on Wakefield'" I thought DK was injured and having an operation over the off season ie not available ... ?

Quote ="asmadasa"No Danny Kirmond even in the England Knights Squad and Brad Singleton in there! Crazy absolutely crazy. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... -1-6106878 This should even more media newsworthy as it simply does not make sense unless he is injured and made himself unavailable. It was mentioned only 3 months ago in the tabloids when we beat Widnes.. Special Danny Kirmond lifts Wakefield Wildcats over Widnes DANNY KIRMOND’S absence from the England squad continues to raise eyebrows – but there is no denying his effect on Wakefield'" I thought DK was injured and having an operation over the off season ie not available ... ?

No.

I was born abroad, but moved to England at the age of 3 months. I grew up in Wakey - got the accent and the scars to prove it. You'd have got on well with my old man, who for some strange reason seemed to delight in telling me I'd never play cricket for Yorkshire, 'cos I wasn't born in the county. Fortunately, those days are gone.

What I don't buy into is the idea that you can switch your allegiance as the opportunities suit. This isn't intended to be club football. It's one of those freak chance kind of things, with the luck that goes with it.

McNamara has no firkin idea. How he lost Brough to the squad and overlooks Kirmond...and picks Hock...Hock!!! Mediocre player and penalty machine thug. Bad choices

OK, I'll let you play the parentage card.
However residency is another matter entirely, especially if you have already played for another nation, and even more so if you've publicly declared that it's your dream to play for your home country and then because you don't get selected you play the residency card to allow you to play for someone else.