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| Quote ="Mary Millington"JE takes the brunt of the blame & seems to be the fall guy....whilst Glover...???'"
As far as I'm aware Elston was running the club, Glover provided the money to subsidise it.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"JE takes the brunt of the blame & seems to be the fall guy....whilst Glover...???'" hasnt glover loaned the club 600,000 grand goodbye mr elston.
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| I too await the mass of investors I was reliably informed are waiting in the wings should JE go?
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| This. Quote ="18th Man".......ultimately he has sent us up the creek twice without a paddle.
All the best James, but I think it's the right time to move on.'"
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I too await the mass of investors I was reliably informed are waiting in the wings should JE go?'"
There must be somebody out there to help out the wildcats? Hope you get some investment soon.
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| I do wonder if Elston was offered the opportunity to resign as a pose to being sacked.....
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| Best thing Elston has done in a while.
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| What does his role as truste entail that he is staying on to do ?
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"I do wonder if Elston was offered the opportunity to resign as a pose to being sacked.....'"
Doubt would have been sacked as would have to have taken more than just damage to club to be dismissed. As Daddycool alluded to in the meeting he's been in cases before and you never usually win if staff decide to go for unfair dismissal.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"What does his role as truste entail that he is staying on to do ?'"
I think I have answered my own question here but it probbably has something to do with him becoming a director of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats LTD last week. But all the same it does seem very odd him resigning after doing this, all seems very strange to me.
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| Thank you James and good luck for the future. Maybe if half the supporters had half the passion for the club you have shown in recent years we would be able to sell season tickets at full price.
Lets see what Uncle Kath can offer under the direction of Red Hall. (Consultant CEO)
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| I like many others now look forward to the investment suggested by some on this forum would follow Elston leaving the club. I just hope I am still young enough to appreciate the additional investment some of you have promised.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I think alot of emphasis and blame has been put at elsons toes. Unfairly or fairly ill remain in the no comment batch of people as I simply am not privy to facts or in the know.
I wish him well as he like any other guy or person has a family to support as well as his own needs.'"
Agree, always seemed a nice guy to talk to and wish him well whatever he does next.
Ateotd I think because he was the guy that got Andrew Glover to take a chance and buy the club. He gave Elston a bit too much responsibility and free reign & put far too much faith in his business skills. Putting him in charge of a Club that is historically very difficult to run and one he already had history with.
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| Best thing Elston has ever done for the club
Don't let the door hit you on the way out
Very pleased to hear Mrs H has taken over
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"JE takes the brunt of the blame & seems to be the fall guy....whilst Glover...???'"
Ahh, but Glover "saved us" so that's ok. Saved us from the same thing happening again 2 years later. Both have to share the blame, but you're right, one has got far more than the other, and I speak from a position of being glad he is no longer employed by the club. (But then, you already knew that...)
I'm not bothered how much of a nice bloke he is, it's business. If he's not up to it, he goes. He's lasted longer than Robbie Paul will at Bradford, and if he's so "talented" as we're told, Elston will be employed sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Ahh, but Glover "saved us" so that's ok. Saved us from the same thing happening again 2 years later. Both have to share the blame, but you're right, one has got far more than the other, and I speak from a position of being glad he is no longer employed by the club. (But then, you already knew that...)
I'm not bothered how much of a nice bloke he is, it's business. If he's not up to it, he goes. He's lasted longer than Robbie Paul will at Bradford, and if he's so "talented" as we're told, Elston will be employed sooner rather than later.'"
As I understand it we are not in the same boat we were in when he saved us.
We would have lost the club without him. We are now short of money but not in Admin.
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| Quote ="PopTart"As I understand it we are not in the same boat we were in when he saved us.
We would have lost the club without him. We are now short of money but not in Admin.'"
As i understand it we have more debt now than last time around.
Admin, well that may have something to do with the RFL.
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| We probably do have more debt but a lot of it is directors loans which they have have said there is an agreement not to call in.
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| Francis Stephenson appeared to be doing a good job till Elston stabbed him in the back.
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| I think we have been through this before the debt was 2.2m made up of 1.6m in director's loans (including Glover). These they have agreed not to call in because if they did the club would fold and they would lose their money anyway. £200,000 was a loan from RFL to pay the HMRC, the repayment for which we have agreed will come from our share of Sky money. This leaves £400,000 which I presume we have reduced with monies received.
It is therefore well within the power of Glover to have closed us down if he had wanted to however, I believe he agreed to not call them in.
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| Quote ="Horbury Cat"Francis Stephenson appeared to be doing a good job till Elston stabbed him in the back.'"
Oh thats all forgotten about and if you speak to James "he seems like a nice bloke"
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| Quote ="supercat"We probably do have more debt but a lot of it is directors loans which they have have said there is an agreement not to call in.'"
Indeed. It's not so much what you owe, but who you owe, as the vast majority of rugby league clubs will affirm.
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| Hindsight is a wonderful to have didn't many on the Forum rejoice at the departure of Francis because of his association with the Ted era.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"Hindsight is a wonderful to have didn't many on the Forum rejoice at the departure of Francis because of his association with the Ted era.'"
Blooming eck, how long did you watch this forum for, before deciding to join up, thats years ago.
And he was stabbed in the back, nearly has many court cases then so nowts changed.
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| You forget that I have been a supporter since the 1960's but feel that some of the rubbish and bile that has started to creep onto the site in the last few years needed to be commented on.
I also remember the two cheerleader in their red suits walking round the field and standing behind the posts.
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